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PURE smiter vs vt

Discussion in 'PvP' started by bballguy, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. bballguy

    bballguy Banned

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    PURE smiter vs vt

    whos gonna win? Coz i see a frnd of mine ( Pure smiter) fighting another 1 of my frnds (strong vt) And the pure one wins:undecided:
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    Assuming smiter has good gear and nulls conivction, he should win.
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    whats vt ?
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    vindicator templar.

    hmmmm any way the vt can win then?
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    Theoretically, it should be an even match. V/T's smite will be weaker but the smiter is forced to stack resists to even out the foh. So they should come out fairly balanced.

    Obviously if the V/T uses a Grief PB (common on V/T's) while the smiter uses a BA, it'll be hard for the former to win. Assuming the smiter is good enough to take advantage of the extra range by charging to knock the v/t back and get free smites off.

    But this is all theory, I fight against a pure smiter with a V/T and we come out fairly balanced. Keep in mind that they both excel at different places. FOH accomplish many deeds which smite cannot. V/T's are more versatile IMO.
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    Real v/t's have same smite damage as pure smiters so obviously the better player will win if everything else is equal.

    Even if a pure smiter has enough stack or flashes conviction 24/7 foh will still do some damage so a v/t should have the advantage here. Why do you think people added foh to smite vs smite duels?


     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    In some theory, a v/t should have the upper hand for many reasons, some of which killer pointed out above. But in practice, assuming both players have top-notch equipment, the smiter will win. Bit of a paradox, really.

    edit: note, though, that lower-end v/ts generally beat lower-end smiters.
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    If both use same equipment and have 20 smite/fana/hs the better player should win. Only exception I can see would be a 20 holy freeze svs build. Here we use 35 slow, tap, freeze and massive ias stack in svs but I got the impression that temple on east had very refined svs and that v/t's beat pure smite and became popular because of that.


     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    vt has same dmg as smiter just upgraded -_- so vt wins all the time
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    i would say smite due to the huge charge dmg (depends on build for sure)
    it also depends on the amount of stack though, even if its not hard to outstack -100ressis from conv
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    Smite.

    Yeah, v/t's do the same damage.

    They also don't have 37x vita charms, along with other stuff.
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    oh ok.

    however, if both max hs fana and smite, why shud the vt lose?
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    As it got pointed out, the pure smiter can take advantage of the v/t with either massive life(37x20life scs) or by being able to use charge to their advantage to knock back the v/t for free hits.
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    Huh? V/t's can use life scs as well but 9x pc skillers are so much better in svs.
    Charge damage doesn't differ much even with maxed charge and rarely hits anyway. How is a pure smiter better lol?
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    Holy freeze radius probably (if the pure smiter was build with svs in mind).



     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    Haha. On text, clearly having to nullify lightning is the downfall as v/t's should make up more than enough amount of life lost by loss of life charms / etc.

    Do you think they can get more than a single heaven fist in, without eating smites?



     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    Doesn't matter, they're equal to smiter in all respects except they have foh and kinda forces the smiter to stack somewhat. And getting foh's off when you're defwhore charging so you're completely desynched isn't too hard.

    Anyway in svs skillers>scs and v/t is, in the worst case, just equal to smiter.


     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    i don't understand why would a V/T choose to smite

    when you can zeal for more damage?

    conviction aura reduce 90%@25lvl defense. Just wear a dream helm and zeal o

    Weapon:
    Azurawrath(500 magic 500 cold damage)
    Grief Phase Blade for more life leech
     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    To looklook´s post:

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    V/T would choose smite becouse he is a Vindicator/Templar = Smiter/Foher hybrid, so why would he use Zeal?!
    2.
    Smite>Zeal
    Zeal can be blocked and Smite not.
    3.
    Conviction Aura´s -% def is a negligible effect in PvP.
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    Life/Mana Leech does not work in PvP.


    To the discussion - Pure Smiter vs V/T:

    This whole discussion is about nothing!
    who wins? pure smiter or V/T?! - sorry but that is silly!
    It always depends on a lot of factors. It cannot be said generally who is better or stronger or who will always win!

    Smiter vs V/T = equal chances and it is down to equip and player´s skill but usually its skill>equip.


     
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    Re: PURE smiter vs vt

    Way to bump an old thread that no one's interested in anymore.

    And common sense tells you that "x vs x" topics are discussed on the grounds of equally good gear and skill. Duh.
     

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