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Pure PVP Smiter ?

Discussion in 'PvP' started by dakotaN, May 10, 2008.

  1. dakotaN

    dakotaN IncGamers Member

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    Pure PVP Smiter ?

    okay , so i became richier so i can afford myself something like anni+T , HoZ , eni , forti etc.

    now i want to made myself a smiter paladin to almost never loose in 1v1 ( almost never i mean if i rly suck hard at pvp then i lose , but if im rly skilled i should not ).
    so the question is.

    STATS? ( i think of using archon plate for forti and i think il hit MAX 103 str , but not more than 103 , thats with anni + T ).
    GEAR ? ( Grief PB , Forti , draculs , gores , HoZ , Maras amu , bul-khatos and raven ).
    so im not sure about the helm and belt ...
    helm - corona , shako , gaze ( for DR ) or andy ? gaze still is kinda not enough i mean i better get corona with 2 bers but im not sure at all , help me out here.
    belt - Nosferatu or Arach ?

    SKILL BUILD ?
    remember that this pala i wanna make is not for UT or PVE.

    well i guess thats it :)
    please suggest me something , thx :p
     
  2. ambid

    ambid IncGamers Member

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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    Stats:

    As low str as possible, might have to add around 20 to wear hoz, but not more than that.

    Enough dex for max blocks.

    Vita everything else goes here

    Energy, nothing.


    Gear:

    Helm: Shako or coa, your call. I'm using ber & -15/[email protected] jeweled coa at the moment myself.

    Amu: Mara's or some sweet rare if you manage to find one.

    Weapon: Grief pb or ba, I got both on my smiter, switching them depending of who i duel.

    Shield: Hoz or spirit, I'm a big fan of spirit and tele smiting.

    Armor: Enigma, nothing else goes.

    Gloves: Bloodfists, trang gloves if you wanna hit 75 fcr.

    Rings: raven / bk or rare.

    Belt: Arach in 75 fcr setup, verdungo when you need the dr. Tg in stash.

    Boots: Waterwalks, tri ress rares, eth treks if you wanna go as high def as possible. I use waterwalks and tri ress rares.

    Invi: Anni, torch, 37x 20 life scs with 2nd mods if possible.


    The core build is:

    20 smite
    20 hs
    20 fana
    1 pt vigor
    1 pt holyfreeze
    1 pt salva

    After that you can customize it freely, If you want more def, put rest points in defiance, if you feel like your comfortable with your def put the points in resists auras for the passive bonus.
     
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    dakotaN IncGamers Member

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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    what items from that list gives STR bonus , so i could calculate everything.
    first time pvp smiter , never had even half of those items on my ut smiter lol.
    u mean 60 str is like enough ?
    wont there be any STR bug then ?
     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    anni = 10-20
    torch = 10-20
    Mara's = 5
    Enigma = 0.75 x char level, 67 at level 90.


    Example:

    Assuming you got mid torch and anni, you will get around 110 str from your items. Upped hoz requires 142. 142 - 110 = 32, you start with 25, so you need to put 7 points in str.
     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    Best smiting build possible is
    STR: 0
    Dex: enough for max block or 0
    Vit: everything you can put
    Energy: ...............


    Armor: nigma
    Helm: shako bered or coa -15/15 and bered or jahed
    Wep: Grief PB for hdins and barbs. Griefz for anything else
    Boots: Waterwalks or tri-res
    Gloves: Godly crafted blood gloves OR bloodfist(grief PB only)
    Shield: ST or SR spirit OR Hoz Bered
    Belt: 40/15 dungos ONLY
    Rings: Raven BK
    Ammy: Maras OR godly crafted
    Charms: 9 pcombs 40+ life only. 10 20/5's on the bottom or top row.

    20 into smite
    20 into charge
    20 into fana
    20 into holyshield
    1 into salvation
    1 into holy freeze
    1 into vigor
    Everything else into Defiance

    Gives best dmg possible and good life. 37x20 scs smiters get pwned by 9 pcombs :)
     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    you mean the opposite right?
     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    I'd like to see you wearing bered coa with 0 str.

    - No defiance build with 0 dex, will get trashed hard by any half decent baba.

    - Hdins and baba's are the opponents you definedly don't wanna use pb againts.

    - Why even bother spirit build if you ain't gonna get 75 fcr option. (or even the 48% fcr)

    - 1 pt charge is all you need to kill the chars your gonna use charge againts, 20 pts there is waste.

    - Assuming perf charms, you lose around 300 hp and 135 all ress if you go the pcombats route, i'd take the all ress over the little damage add anyday.

    - With your build, the only resists you get is from shield, Possible boots and charms. 40 anni + torch, 50 hoz, 50 charms, 40 to fire, cold, lightning from boots = 140 psn, 180 fire, cold, lightning resists. That is barely stacked resists in hell, you will get 1 shotted by foh palas.

    I feel alot more comfortable with deeply stacked resistances in all around dueling, svs is different thing.

    There is no one best build, different build works different again different opponents.



     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    Grief PB for barbs and hdins because hdins have slow and that 10% will screw you over and for barbs too because you achieve max block if you are using full vitality build. Also you have salvation and max charge. Fohers cant touch you if you put on salvation and you can just charge kill them. With Grief PB you achieve max block and you dont really need defiance as much if you walk smite OR stand and smite.


     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    Hdins doesn't have slow, if they don't actually melee hit you. If you got 40 ias grief ba and 20 ias gloves, you got enough ias to counter the 10% slow from arach, so i don't see it as a problem.

    I don't see you getting max blocks while using spirit, with hoz it might be possible. Salvation gives ~105 ress, while fohers got around -175 resists, you will still be far from max resistances.

    I don't quite see how grief pb helps you with achieving max blocks. Stand smite is one of the worst tactics vs. ww babas, especially if your using pb grief. I don't get you logic how walking or standing helps your lacking defense.



     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    Grief PB forces you to get 136 dex which is max block.
    105 res + res from other gear should give you max res in hell. Shift smite is wat i did with my old pb smiter. Considering this is a pub build most pub barbs are stupid and try to WW right next to you(in your range).

    EDIT: 40 + 20 = 60

    55 ias smite bp. No matter wat u will be slowed down to the lower BP.
     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    105 res + res from other items gives you max resists in hell, but not max resists in hell after you lose -175 resist from convi and foh scepter.

    I don't know what baba's you have dueled, but most of the babas i duel, know how to clip ww from the sides of you.

    With 31 level fanaticism, you need 50 ias for 6 frame smite, 40 ias grief, 20 ias gloves is 60 ias, you can afford to lose 10 ias and remain the 6 frame smite. So, no you won't be slowed down.



     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm well i only duel in pubs and as i said pub barbs are dumb. And i need to look into that slow down stuffs.

    O well imo he should make a T/V. Much better char :)
     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    Got to agree on that, v/t is more versatile character. But he stated he pure smiter in the tittle so i go with that. :tongue:



     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    jamestrades , ur post doesnt make any sense i guess , 0 STR ? how do i actually wear coa then =/
     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    assuming your opponents will be stupid is not a recipe for successful PvP adventures.

    any decent barb will ez any smiter who isn't proficient in Tele-Smite.



     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    from my realm i can tell u both those wont work stand smite or shift+ smite as known = auto fail vs a barb with one brain cell due to clipping however ba the problems with ba is barbs slap on slow i.e clegs + bb on our realm which is 35% slow + hf from doom means = range does nothing cuz the smite is slowed down to crap..

    the only way to effectively beat a barb is using tele smite adding hf to slow the barb as well if needed..



     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    That's true, but that much slow is bm imo. Ofcourse you can keep bm gear in stash too. Exile + grief pb + tele smiting + hf flashing > 95% of baba's you will ever face.
     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    are we talking about smite vs baba tactics ? dont think so :)
    please dont offtop , u can suggest build stats and skills though :D
     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    this is a true statement but alot of barbs on my realm and most on our realm slow is not too bm unless vs zon



     
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    Re: Pure PVP Smiter ?

    btw will people duel me if ill use holy freeze ? i saw hf smiters been flamed a lot and nobody wanned to duel them ...
     

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