Pure PvM MF Avenger Build

[Paladin Mastery]

Pure PvM MF Avenger Build

I am currently making one, and would like the advice of anyone out there. I need to know Stats, Skills, Equipment. Remember, it is purely PvM MF. So no need for any of that PvP stuff.

 

[BlackWinterDay]

I am currently making one, and would like the advice of anyone out there. I need to know Stats, Skills, Equipment. Remember, it is purely PvM MF. So no need for any of that PvP stuff.

I don't wanna discourage you, but I've played a 1.09 MF Burizon, and a Season 1 MF Frenzy Barb, and now a Season 2 MF Meteorb Sorc, and I gotta tell you that the Sorc owns all by a HUGE margin. Unless you are playing with Enigma for Teleport, you should really reconsider your idea. By going with MF you are going to be giving up a lot of much needed survival mods, and you're not going to be very effective in Hell. If you wanna MF, you should build a sorc, to find gear for all the Paladins you want to make...

 

[Paladin Mastery]

I know but Avengers kill in PvM so I wanted to have an mfing one. Ya know with like this:

Helm: Harlequin Quest Shako (74%)
Body: Enigma (80%)
Weapon: Ali Baba (135%) (2 ists)
Sheild: Hoz (25%) (1 ist)
Gloves: Chance Guards (20-40%)
Boots: War Travelers (30-50%)
Belt: Goldwrap (30%)
Rings: Nagels (15-30%)
Amulet: Seraphs Hymn (0%)
Charms: Gheeds n small.

With all of the above you can have above 400% MF and decent Survivability. My character will be lvl 80.

 

[JiXsTeR]

I see like no resists from that gear except for HoZ. Gonna be hard to survive. And, avengers kill slowly. Just go with a sorc like BlackWinterDay said. They're just too good at MFing.

 

[Paladin Mastery]

Ok, someone show me one of their mf sorcs. List all items and stats and MF%.

And wouldn't Hoz with Pdiamond along with some other modifications do well in hell? I mean convic will lower monsters defense by 90% as well as their resists. So shouldn't it be easy to do meph runs. I'll also have enigma. And the equipment I listed is what ill be using when I kill the boss. I"ll prob have other items to use while getting there. But would I really need other items since I can just tele with Enig? Also w/ Maxed Defiance and HS I should have enough defense to beat Act 2. Oh, and yes, I"ll be doing Meph runs since I heard hes the best Boss to drop good items. So Basically:

Stats:
Str: Enough to wear best equip.
Dex: Max Block w/ HS
Vit: Rest
Ener: None

Skills:
20 Conviction
20 Defiance
20 Holy Sheild
10 in Synergies
1-10 in Vengeance
11 in pereqs

With the Hoz, synergies, and HS. I don't think Defense or Resists will be a prob? I can also go buy some Mara's and use them which will add even more resists. With the above listed equip, I'll have lvl 25 conv, which is the max right? So can anyone tell me wrong because I'm assuming everything I've typed based on experience which I lack in
Do you think a zealot would be a better mfer?
If so, tell me...'cause I have an almost perfect zealot who is lvl 90. And he gets about 30k defense. He has low resists but he still doesn't die.

 

[Burn-X]

You can grab Griz set and solve the resist problem (add 3 PDia into the shield). It also gives +5 skills to get your Conv to 25. Since you want to MF, you can add 5 PTopaz to the body armor and helm (which have some MF already).

With good Chance Gaurd, War Travelers and such, you can have around 350% MF. If you want to get really serious with MFing in Griz set, put 4 IST into the weapon for another 120% MF.

Overall, you can MF with a good percentage without losing resistance and killing power.

 

[BlackWinterDay]

You're only going to put 1-10 points in Vengence, but none in the related synergies, and the rest of your stat points are already used... It's going to take you forever to kill anything in hell...

Also, how are you going to get Enigma in the first place? Those runes are extremely hard to find, and very difficult to trade for unless you have a lot of GOOD stuff to trade, and without Enigma, you're going to have a hard time finding stuff to trade for... Viscious circle...

My lvl 80 Meteorb sorc uses:

Harlequin Crest (P.Topaz)
Skulders Ire (P.Topaz)
Wizardspike
Moser's Blessed Round (2x P.Diamond)
Goldwrap
Magefist
Treads of Cthon (Hah!)
The Rising Sun
Nagelring (30%)
Nagelring (27%)

My goal with her is to get a Mara's to replace the Rising Sun, and eventually use my Avenger to kill myself a D-Clone and get an Anni charm. Then she won't need to the P.Diamonds in her Moser's (Which she wants to upgrade), so I think I will HEL them out, along with the P.Topazs in my armor and helm, and put good fire/cold facets into everything I own to increase my killing speed. One Nagel will be replaced with an SoJ, and the other with a Wisp. And I need some War Travelers, obviously... Right now I have Gul + Ryme on switch for act Boss kills (+125% MF). I will replace those with a dual IST'd Ali Baba and 4x IST'd Monarch, when I get around to planting that IST tree in my backyard...

See, the thing is, even a Sorc can't go balls to the wall MF if she wants to kill quickly. You've listed all this MF gear you want to use on your pally, but without IAS, leech, absorb, resists, etc etc etc then you are going to get CREAMED in Hell. I don't know that setup could even make it off the Blood Moor, sorry to say.

 

[Paladin Mastery]

I said i'll have 10 in synergies (i.e. resist cold/fire/lightning).
I can very well afford Enigma.
Why would I need IAS? Conviction will reduce monsters defenses by a considerable amount so it won't take me long to kill them. I don't need absorb since I can get decent resists with:
Anni (+15)
Hoz w/ PDiamond (+69)
Mara's (+25)
+1 point in Salvation (i.e. +60 to all resists)
I don't think I'll be needing leech since I'll have max resists and around 20k defense.
And Burn had some good advice.

 

[prion]

I hate to sound like an *** but you are way off on some basic things.
1) ali baba is pretty slow without IAS and not enough damage. keep it on switch with an mf sheild for when you sliver meph. pdiamond your HoZ and use it with your good weapon all other times. OR get an exile sheild because that will help u when teleporting.
2) ditch defiance, power up vengeance and synergies
3) I would not even bother with salvation. your killing power goes way down when you turn it on.

also, let's see some creativeness with your rings, amulets and gloves, you can get good crafteds and rares with mf. try browsing your realm's trade forum or Marketplace.

and since you have a high level zealot, why dont you just try him and see how he does?

hope that helps

 

[Paladin Mastery]

Ok, just bought 20 7% small mf charms lol. Ok, I'll try my zealot. Reports on that later.

 

[Paladin Mastery]

He can't, after 4 teleports with enigma he ran out of mana. It's just too slow without teleport.

Also, I need some advice on a PvP Avenger, would this do good?

20 Conviction (So I don't have to sacrifice equipment for +skill to get 25)
20 Holy Sheild (Defense)
20 Defiance (Synergy)
1-10 Vengeance (Main Attack)
10 Resist Light/Fire/Cold (Synergy)
11 in pereqs

OR:

20 Conviction
20 Holy Sheild
10 Defiance
10 Vengeance
10 Resist Light/Fire/Cold
11 in pereqs

 

[Paladin Mastery]

Need an answer to my last reply!!!!!!!!

 

[hgsr]

try using good mf items and +skillers with a meteorb. balance is better.try something like this if u want to make a sorc:

shako ptopaz
volcanic amulet of luck(very hard to find,volcanic is ok)
tals armor
tals belt
magefist
lidless wall
ali babas(ist them if possible)
war travellers
high blue mf rings(I use %36&%37)
skillers,life&res small charms,gheeds also good luck sc's

with these you will have high damage and mf(I have around 500,still I have to replace tals armor with skullers and many items are need to be near perfect)

pvp avengers are not good in my opinion since they are slow and vulnerable.try having some +skillers for reaching 25 con because u will need damage

 

[Paladin Mastery]

Kk, but I need an answer for the question.

Which stats should I have on Vengeance and Defiance for a PvP Avenger?
Does he need more damage or defense?

20 Holy Sheild
20 Conviction
5/10/15 Vengeance?
5/10/15 Defiance?
10 Resist Fire/Cold/Lightning