Pure charger vs a Liberator (copy/pasted)

[Phyrexial]

Pure charger vs a Liberator (copy/pasted)

Sorry for the whole double posting, but it was suggested that I bring this discussion to the paladin forums to let the experts take a look at it. Thanks for your time.

while alot of good builds like vts liberators works well in sc doesn't mean it works in hc. how do you think a v/t or a liberator fare against a pure deck out charger
forget about a barb
v/t = stack resist + absorb your basically screw
liberator = the charger's vigor out speed your hammers his charge > your charge

This is taken from the 'HC dueling vs SC dueling" thread.

Would someone else please explain to me since when can you be so fast that you can actually dodge your way through a hammer field flawlessly? I'm not sure if this is what senji is getting at, but that's what I'm getting from his post. "charger's vigor out speed your hammers" :scratch:

Also, I'd like some other v/ts to explain thier encounters with people that negate their FoH.

To which he responded:

to simply put vigor causes desync and if the pure charger get a hit your mostly dead. a decent hc dueler is just not stupid enough to charge in to your hammer fields

 

[majorB]

Im not quite sure what hes getting at either libs can use desynch too, not just pure chargers. Desynched hammers are a charger, or any other melee chars worst nightmare

Its certainly possible to charge a lib to death if they make stupid mistake, but same any decent lib isnt going to make it easy to get in a clear shot, especially to a char with no ranged attack. Id go with the lib, easily.

 

[gohanthemystic]

I don't quite recall the name of the thread but a few weeks ago someone made a very nice thread on how to charge thru a hammer field with a good rate of success. As soon as i locate the thread i'll link you to it kudos?

 

[fugitive alien2]

I don't quite recall the name of the thread but a few weeks ago someone made a very nice thread on how to charge thru a hammer field with a good rate of success. As soon as i locate the thread i'll link you to it kudos?

you can time a hammer field coming in from the SE if the hammerdin is standing still. good luck if he's moving and casting from multiple spots.

"gohan.."

*shudders*

 

[FoodPoisoning]

You'll usually end up taking at least one hammer charging there though

 

[-Epic]

I don't quite recall the name of the thread but a few weeks ago someone made a very nice thread on how to charge thru a hammer field with a good rate of success. As soon as i locate the thread i'll link you to it kudos?

yes please id love to see how to charge through a hammer field with out getting hit once

 

[mepersoner]

I can do it, but I'm the only man alive who can, and that's because I use leet hax.

 

[fugitive alien2]

I can do it, but I'm the only man alive who can, and that's because I use leet hax.

mep is a red neck packers fan look at his name...

 

[mepersoner]

Wolf Druid > all paladins

I wish this was 1.09 so I could go into temple and thrash you all prove it still.

 

[fugitive alien2]

Wolf Druid > all paladins

I wish this was 1.09 so I could go into temple and thrash you all prove it still.

when patch hit i was almost finished with high level stacking avenger (based on 76er) to handle temple crashing boasty woofies ^^

 

[mepersoner]

Silly boy, E-FFK > defense based builds.

 

[mortic]

Wolf Druid > all paladins

Am I missing some leet hax secret about wolf druids? So far, my zealot is cutting through melee wolves and bears like soft butter.

 

[FoodPoisoning]

I wonned your druid so DIE

 

[mepersoner]

Am I missing some leet hax secret about wolf druids? So far, my zealot is cutting through melee wolves and bears like soft butter.

You have the wrong patch installed.

So I take it we all agree that lib > crusader right?

 

[fugitive alien2]

Silly boy, E-FFK > defense based builds.

extra defense wasn't for you it was to negate spirit wolves. otherwise didn't need it.