proof that charge is melee apparently false

[Stoutwood]

Ok guys, argue all you want, you're still not going to change the meaning of the word MELEE. Someone already posted the definistion, but I took it upon myself to do it again and even cite a source.

From the Mirriam-Webster Online Dictionary:
Main Entry: me·lee
Variant(s): also mê·lée /'mA-"lA, mA-'/
Function: noun
Etymology: French mêlée, from Old French meslee, from mesler to mix -- more at MEDDLE
: a confused struggle; especially : a hand-to-hand fight among several people

There you go. That really means that everything you've talked about is melee isn't it? If you disagree with this, send a letter to Mirriam-Webster on how their definition didn't take Attack Rating into account when they published this. In the meantime, please bring an end to this flame thread. The very subject that is being argued about is making my head hurt.

 

[prion]

My original post really had nothing to do with dueling although the ensuing discussion explained a lot.
In any case it looks like Charge is melee.

Props to LovelyGods for getting closest to a game-based definition of melee.

 

[Uhgii]

Ok guys, argue all you want, you're still not going to change the meaning of the word MELEE. Someone already posted the definistion, but I took it upon myself to do it again and even cite a source.

From the Mirriam-Webster Online Dictionary:
Main Entry: me·lee
Variant(s): also mê·lée /'mA-"lA, mA-'/
Function: noun
Etymology: French mêlée, from Old French meslee, from mesler to mix -- more at MEDDLE
: a confused struggle; especially : a hand-to-hand fight among several people

There you go. That really means that everything you've talked about is melee isn't it? If you disagree with this, send a letter to Mirriam-Webster on how their definition didn't take Attack Rating into account when they published this. In the meantime, please bring an end to this flame thread. The very subject that is being argued about is making my head hurt.

:clap: :thumbsup: :clap:

Thanks, Stoutwood.

 

[Fonis post mortem]

LovelyGods, your posts in those 2 threads have made me add you to my "should stop talking and stab himself in the throat" list. Congratulations. make the world a better place.

 

[xpumafangx]

I do not think I could ever put some one on that list. Even that gohan some thing or other from way back when. I did not put him on that list. He was a dick tho.

 

[Module88]

To a lot of duelers, charge is not considered melee.
Charge is a mobile attack, combining movement with an attack. Most consider melee to be more toe to toe.

Most can't do more than click and hold and hope they win. Any movement beyond attacking is not melee.

 

[Module88]

Smite = not melee, since ur using a shield, but it takes no ar for it to work..

A shield is not a weapon? If I took a metal trash can and beat you over the head would you just not move? So what if it doesn't take ar? Let's ask a better question for the smite is not melee folks.

If smite is not melee, what is it? It has to be under some classification. Ranged? Spell? ?

 

[HandofElysium]

A shield is not a weapon? If I took a metal trash can and beat you over the head would you just not move? So what if it doesn't take ar? Let's ask a better question for the smite is not melee folks.

If smite is not melee, what is it? It has to be under some classification. Ranged? Spell? ?

It's an overpowered melee attack that other melee builds whine about.

In 1.09 I never had zealots complain about smite that much because of eth bug and life leech.

Now since 1.10 corrected the bugs all I see now is this spammed to fill the screen after I have killed them.

"LOL smite is not melee n00b!"

 

[Module88]

It's an overpowered melee attack that other melee builds whine about.

In 1.09 I never had zealots complain about smite that much because of eth bug and life leech.

Now since 1.10 corrected the bugs all I see now is this spammed to fill the screen after I have killed them.

"LOL smite is not melee n00b!"

So true. It proves the point that if you can't beat it in melee, it's not melee. Was it melee in 09 and not 1.1? How does that work? It didn't change at all. The only thing that did change was zeal, and suddenly, smite is not melee. ?

 

[Soepgroente]

Charged strike is a case on itself, since you "magically" create the lightning bolts I'd think. So you could adress it as a combination of melee/spell. But whirlwind and such are definitely melee. Berserk too as it does physical damage, the skill just converts it to magic.

How is spanking somebody with your shield not melee? Why would attack rating or blockability in any way have anything to do with it?

CS is dependant on skill level and not on weapon damage at all however, which may not make it melee for 100%. You do get up close and spank with your weapon though.