Problems in Hell

[madridcf]

Hi everyone.I play a singleplayer sorceress cold/fire ,already pass nightmare,but i'm having problems in ACT IV in HELL.
I'm playing 1.13 version,80 lvl.I've tried twice in chaos sanc. but "Lord de Seis" and "Infector of Souls" were twice both fire/cold immune.Does anyone have an idea what should i do to pass them ? Do they always spawn to be cold/fire ?

 

[pharphis]

Two things may help you:

lower resist charges on a wand/knife. You can shop a wand with up to lvl 2 lower res. When you're in your mid 90s you can shop lvl3 but you should be able to beat hell well before that.

Beef up a merc with an insight stick or other hard hitting polearm. Poison dmg helps a lot here for preventing monster regeneration... Weapons that slow them down will also help a lot like kelpie snare. Abuse telekinesis to stunlock each of these bosses against a wall to both keep your merc from being hit and prevent de seis from running away.

Don't forget about static field. I can't remember their natural immunity but if you try again they are likely going to be different so they may not be both fire and cold immune

 

[madridcf]

Hmh interesting.But now i have some questions.
1.If they are natural immune to cold/fire,so the other two options will go ahead.
I have seen pictures in google where soultaker is COLD/Phisic. or FIRE / Light. somethimes,but not cold/fire for sure !I have to say here that these pictures were on 1.10 or 1.11 version. Is there a difference in monster immunity depending on game version : one in 1.10 ,other in 1.13,for example : cold / fire in 1.13 ,but fire/ phis. in 1.10 ??

2.Which is this wand/knife you're meaning of.I can't figure it out ,that's why i'm asking.Can you give a picture of it,and what should i use with it to take down infector/lord de seis resistance ?
3.About the mercenary : I bought one in lighting,i bought him a sword and shield,also a armor and a helmet,but he was to easy to die.Infector is quiet fast and deadly,De seis has a devastating distance striking...

How to use poison to them ? Just to throw a colbes to them or ?
Thanks for the previous post.I'm awaiting answer and here .

 

[pharphis]

Monster res are the same for 1.10+ versions I believe. They gain bonuses to res from their other mods: fire/cold/lightning enchanted, magic resistant, stone skin, mana burn, spectral hit...

It would be a magic wand that you could shop (reroll the shop by exiting and returning to town). It would be "blahblah of lower resist", where blahblah can be any wand. I'd recommend trying Ormus, Jamella (?), Malah, Drognan or Akara for rerolling. whichever is faster. You'll need a few hundred thousand gold in case the wand has some other expensive skills on it like lvl 30 skills (poison nova, etc.)

Act 3 mercs do VERY little dmg and are altogether fairly useless. Buy an A2 or A5 mercenary for better results. A2 Offensive merc from nightmare difficulty will have might aura, which will boost his dmg considerably. Then you can use any high dmg polearm or spear and he should be able to kill most things you can't, with some help.

Poison dmg would come on your merc's weapon or helm ideally, but it's not necessary. It could also work perhaps if you had a bow on switch but I realize your chance to hit would probably be too low. Telekinesis is a better use of your time facing enemies you cannot kill without the merc. Aim for as much dmg as possible on the merc and then outfit him with life leech/crushing blow/resistance if you can. resistance on the merc >> defense, so make res a priority

 

[madridcf]

Thank you for information.it's interesting.But i'm not so good player and i don't know how exactly to do the things you already told me.
About the gold - i have much - about half a million (i always collect it {for black days we say} ) .
I have about 60 dexterity,if i use a bow,won't it be enough ? When i run Andariel, very often I get a brown bow , unigue i suppose,may be wrong.So a BOW with a poison ,right ?
How to life leech the merc- what this mean ? TO heel him or what ?
If i buy this wang to take down resistance - will then i be able to strike with immunity magic ?

 

[pharphis]

Yes a bow with poison if you wanted to try it yourself. The reason for this is just to keep monsters from regenerating life, which they won't do while poisoned.
life leech = life steal = a weapon/helm/armor that gives "%life stolen on hit" It will help keep him alive as feeding potions isn't the most reliable thing (though they help, too!)/

The wand may or may not "break" the monster's immunity. It depends on how much resistance they have and how much you're reducing it by. You'll just have to try it out to see.

My highest recommendation for you is first to get a merc and a reasonable weapon (100+ % Enhanced Damage exceptional or elite should work - unique (brown/gold text) polearms are usually very good). Running Andarial or Mephisto could get you one of these probably.

This page will give you an idea of some of the items you can expect to find that will be useful. Look higher up for other types of items
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/exceptional/upolearms.shtml

 

[madridcf]

Good,i see.I need a merc - offensive with good attack who must steal life.In that time i should strike with bow poisoned.Can i heel the merc ?

 

[japanzaman]

Shift+right-click potions on your belt to heal your merc.

 

[pharphis]

Good,i see.I need a merc - offensive with good attack who must steal life.In that time i should strike with bow poisoned.Can i heel the merc ?

you can shift + 1/2/3/4 to instantly use a potion on the merc. Life steal will help him the most but potions can help too. Rejuvenation potions are best, ofc.
The offensive merc should be bought in NM mode, as in NM he has might aura and in norm + hell he has blessed aim. Might increases dmg and blessed aim only increases attack rating

 

[madridcf]

Good day.Actually,i tried again without a merc,just to see the immunity,and they were just with one and i managed to passed them and procceed to ACT V. If i have the same problem and here,without a desicion,i will try the options you offered me.Thank you anyway !!

 

[pharphis]

Good day.Actually,i tried again without a merc,just to see the immunity,and they were just with one and i managed to passed them and procceed to ACT V. If i have the same problem and here,without a desicion,i will try the options you offered me.Thank you anyway !!

Nice! Good luck with the ancients and baal!

 

[Cyrax]

I know you already got further so it may matter a bit less now, but some remarks about things said earlier in this thread as they may help you later on...

There is poison damage to be found on unique bows/x-bows, but also on rare (yellow) and magic (blue) items. Easiest is probably to get a bow with sockets and throw in some emeralds (there's also jewels with poison damage).

Phar mentioned that poison damage stops monsters from regenerating. That's true in most cases. However not in all. Exception is monsters that are poison immune. A solution to that would be an item with PMH (Prevent monster heal). That stops regeneration on any monster. Problem is, that's a less common thing to find. Only one that comes to mind right now is on a sword so that's not very practical, because as a sorc you really don't want to hit stuff. If you're close enough to do so, that means monsters are also close enough to hit you.

With 60 dex (or any dex really) you will hit something eventually. Only with more dex, the chance of doing so increases. You can see the chance to hit something if you hover over your attack rating in you character's stats screen (known in the SCF as LCS which stands for Lying Character Screen). I wouldn't increase dex though as those points are better spend elsewhere for a sorc.

Besides that i don't think the problem would be to stop the regeneration, but more the keeping the merc alive long enough to kill the monster.

Merc' can be fed healing and rejuvenation potions. You can't give them mana potions, but since they don't have mana that doesn't matter.

Another way to give a merc a potion would be to drop it on his/her picture in the upper left corner of your screen. Most practical (fastest) however is the way pharphis described.

 

[madridcf]

Thank you for this post,too. Actually i killed Baal already.I'm wondering the following : Maybe in singleplayer when you play all alone with sorc. you can't do a lot a damage,because you are on two spells at least to have a chance to complete a game (cold / fire for example ).I reset my skills twice ,so i have only one option left.
Can i reset my skills /stats more if i reset them using the last available quest from Anya (in HELL) ?
I made the sorc in the following way :
Blizz - 20
Cold mastery - 5
Ice blast - 10

Fire ball - 20
Meteor - 20
FM - 10

For the moment is this (no more points available).Can i do her for more damage ?

 

[japanzaman]

You might think of using Frozen Orb instead of Blizzard if you want to go dual skill tree, as Blizzard and Meteor are similar types of mob killers with just different elements. Frozen Orb is also more effective with less skill points, but it has a lower damage ceiling than Blizzard. As far as items go, nothing beyond getting better gear will help you. Running Hell Meph is a good way to accumulate some of that gear on the cheap.

You do realize that you are not limited to just 3 skill resets? In 1.13 you can get essences from the Hell prime evils and cube them to create a potion that will allow you to respec as many times as possible. They don't always drop them, though, so you'll probably have to beat each boss a few times before you get their essence.

 

[DaveW]

Sup madrdcif, welcome to the forums. Can you tell us what kind of merc you are using and their gear? If monsters are fire+cold immune they are not usually physical immune so a well equipped merc should be able to take them down no probs. And Kelpie/Guillies Face/Duress is a certified boss killer especially combined with static field spamming. BTW a FO/FB sorc or Orbitaller is a well rounded sorc. Can pretty musch go anywhere in the game. Sure there are faster specialized killers out there but the Orbitaller will get the job done just as well if a bit slower.

 

[Sput]

Hello madridcf. A Real fan I am guessing?

I would suggest going the Blizz/Ball route since you already have experience with Blizzard and I think it is the most fun. Using the assumed 94 skill points at your disposal, a build might look like;

Ice Bolt: 1
Ice Blast: 10 (or 1)
Frost Nova: 1
Glacial Spike: 1 (or 10)
Blizzard: 20
Cold Mastery: 5

Fire Bolt: 20
Fire Ball: 20
Fire Mastery: 13

Static Field: 1
Telekinesis: 1
Teleport: 1

Future points into Ice Blast (or Glacial Spike). Then if magic find is your game, run Pindleskin a bunch; you can raise the players setting if you want experience as well. You could also try out the Ancient Tunnels or Mausoleum.

 

[madridcf]

Hi everyone again.Yea,i'm real madrid's supporter.So let's talk about the game.
I don't have a merc,i had a luck that infector and lord de seis weren't double immunity,so i passed them and all game after that.
Now i'm level 82,i and see that it's better to play orb / meteor than blizz / meteor because of the skill points ( Orb receives bonusses only from the ice bolt,not like Blizzard ).
I collected all the essences so i have already one more opportunity to reset skill/stats.
Can you offer me building on cold / fire to do the most damage as i can ? (orb / meteor )

I'm trying to collect also TAL RASH set. The mask dropped me by Memf yesterday,i was wondering about the other items of it.
I also want to ask you where is the best place to fight for with monarch or a shield with 4 sockets for creation of Spirit. ?
Should a wear an items with better finding for monarch or not ?
If i can't find the other tal rash items ,i'm also interested in finding Shako ,Mara,DF maybe,Oculus ,eldrich ? Where is the best place for them also,do i need a better finding ?


aw : Thanks for the previous posts.