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ThomasJohnsen

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And also: I know how much I can drink, because i've drunk often and you learn from it :/ Thats why I've stopped drinking spirits, eating before my parties and I'm sure Tank would have been aware of the same thing. I know that spirits make me go over the edge, beers make me merry and alcopops add a sweet taste to my breath. We're not that foolish, and it almost comes across as if you're being slightly patronising :/ The mindset that 16 year olds don't know anything is only true in some cases, we're not ALL idiots.
My point exactly.

...and to say that I don't care? (Lynn) Pfft. If only you knew.



 

KTang

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We're young and naive, we see alcohol as a false-escape from girl problems >.> when we're older we'll learn to behave, I'm sure.

Point made and agreed Jakotaco =]

Cheers Tom if you meant something positive :p

Edit: looked at your point again and yeah, I agree. :D

KT
 

Tankmobile

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lets get the legal stuff settled first:
it is NOT illegal to give alcohol, or drink alcohol, unless you are under the age of 5.
with teenagers, police can only confiscate booze off you, if you are drinking in a public place, eg a park or a street.
on private property, you can do what you like, hence they aren't allowed to break up parties etc.
It is just illegal to buy/get sold alcohol if you are under 18.

We often dfo go into clubs/bars etc in town, but alot of the time, its to a newsagent, in a park to drink, nd get trashed. but i dont think there's been 1 occasion any of us have got into fights etc...
plus, i'm one of the smallest of my friends and at 6ft, i aint exactly small.

thanks Tom. I know my limits, i know i have to eat, or i end up passing out quickly. i know i cant drink wine, and i know more than 50+units (bout 3rd bottle of vodka) will make me pass out. so i avoid that. see? i know my limits.
btw, to most of us, beer isnt seen as something you can get drunk off....if you want to get drunk, you move to spirits.

I object to the whole "you are a child attitude" as im sure im bigger than alot of you, and tbh, i've been through much more. but that isnt the issue here...

i think Fedmann makes the good point that as long as it aint very regular thing, its OK.

and on the drugs issue, that isn't something id ever do...
i saw my auntie hanging from the shower, after she went off her head on drugs... i was with my uncl;e when he jumped off a train high on heroine...
my nana is an alcoholic and haven't seen her in 3 years...
i know the inherent risks of drinking etc, but its not something i would get addicted to.

And about the girl problem thing./....
i was fairly tanked beforehand, i was on the second bottle and wouldve finishd it anyway...

what ive said doesn't make alot of sense as a whole, as ive just replied to one post at a time :smiley:
 

Tankmobile

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maybe so....
but i know damned fine i look alot older than 16 since i can get into most clubs in manchester easily...
not so much in school uniform...but when dressed properly...most rec kon i look 19/20.
 
I object to the whole "you are a child attitude" as im sure im bigger than alot of you, and tbh, i've been through much more. but that isnt the issue here...
Not once have I ever called you a child, or implied that you are one. When you're not drunk you seem to be more mature than a lot of people I have met your age. I've accepted the way your culture is, and I know the culture factor is a big part of why I feel the way I do about it, but it will not change what has happened. I don't mind the casual drinking so much, but when you start doing it to 'drown your sorrows,' then it becomes something else. And that is what this is about...



 

Tankmobile

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not getting at you Lynn, genuinely nice person, and thanks for the concern.
with me, it isn't going to develop into a drown your sorrows thing with me...
even if i say stuff along those lines, real reason will be to get pissed and have a merry time which involves dancing and singing :grin:
 

lookbehindyou

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First time I had a beer I got drunk after 1 ½ beers. About half a liter. I heard about people that can drink 30 beers in 8 hours and not really be drunk. If Tank doesn't drink every week or even month he will easily get polished like that with a small amount of alchohol. The same as anyone else. Most people can throw up if they get too much. I wouldn't worry too much.

I'm off for today, c'yall tomorrow - take care :wave:
 
Let me assure you, that would be a bad idea, our judgement could be clouded and minds not sharp enough

:laugh:
:unimpressed: You left out part of that:
As much as I don't like it, drinking in moderation should be okay IF you can control it.
Poeple close to me doing things like that are what made me not even want to be near people that have been drinking. They are okay with one or two, but after that they start to get out of hand, and it's not something I like to see people do. Even the smell of alcohol makes me sick to my stomach, knowing what is likely to happen as a result of it's consumption. I would list examples, but it would be too long to bother with since it wouldn't matter to anyone here.

Now stop :hide:ing and get to work! :angry:



 

ThomasJohnsen

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Sorry for the confusion KT - I did mean it in a positive way. I was in a bit of a rush and it came out a little wrong.

I have to make one final comment as I didn't have time to do so 3 hours ago. Because the following quote really got to me. I am quite angry still.

It is his choice to do these things, and it seems no one really cares about it but me which is really sad.
No one cares? I'm not even gonna debate this. You know nothing about me! Nothing about the kids I teach. Nothing about how I feel about them or how much I care! Suffice to say: you're very wrong. And I'm angry!



 
No one cares? I'm not even gonna debate this. You know nothing about me! Nothing about the kids I teach. Nothing about how I feel about them or how much I care! Suffice to say: you're very wrong. And I'm angry!
Up until that point you had only spoken of the price of alcohol in various countries in Europe, and seemed to agree with the general concensus that what happened was okay to do:
I must admit, I fail to see the problem here.
So don't be mad at me for voicing something other than what you are trying to tell me now. You're right, I don't know you, and I'm sure you care very much for the kids you teach. But the things you said told me that you agreed with most everyone here that it was okay to have those types of drinking habits. To say you agree with them one moment, and then to change your mind when someone says something you don't like is wrong. I'm not saying you should 'pick sides,' Im saying you should make up your mind about what you feel is the right thing to do. Be mad all you like, because you my friend are wrong as well.

It's about time to stop this, don't you think? We aren't going to agree and it's not getting anyone anywhere. It's one of those things that can go round in circles forever. I'm tired of beating a dead horse.



 

ThomasJohnsen

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Must be allowed a final comment after such an attack from that high horse.

Up until that point you had only spoken of the price of alcohol in various countries in Europe, and seemed to agree with the general concensus that what happened was okay to do:
And I still do! Young people are smart. They may drink heavily on occasion, but if it's in a secure environment it may actually teach them some valuable lessons. And I've never heard of anyone I teach or know getting addicted to alcohol from drinking once a week or fortnight.

To say you agree with them one moment, and then to change your mind when someone says something you don't like is wrong.
Erm - yes I agree (just tell me when I changed my mind).

Be mad all you like, because you my friend are wrong as well.
Which of course makes you right?

I'm tired of beating a dead horse.
And me too.


#EDIT: Oh and by the way. Who might have started all this debate over a dead horse?



 
Must be allowed a final comment after such an attack from that high horse.
What are you talking about now? If you are trying to imply that I think I am better than anyone else here, then you are very wrong.

And I still do! Young people are smart. They may drink heavily on occasion, but if it's in a secure environment it may actually teach them some valuable lessons. And I've never heard of anyone I teach or know getting addicted to alcohol from drinking once a week or fortnight.
I'm not saying that they would either. The only thing I did was express concern for a friend and what do I get? A bunch of people trying to tell me I shouldn't care about him because 'it's okay, it's part of his culture. Everyone is doing it!' So excuse me for being the type of person that cares about my friends.
Erm - yes I agree (just tell me when I changed my mind).
Right here, when I said it seemed like no one else cared.
Which of course makes you right?
I said 'as well.' I didn't say I wasn't wrong, I said you are too.
And me too.
#EDIT: Oh and by the way. Who might have started all this debate over a dead horse?
The only thing I did was express my concern for a friend. It's not my fault everyone else here wanted to argue with each other over the minor details of it.



 
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