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[jallelime]

marcello: I think Lynn is right, it ain't responsible at all. He couldn't be responsible for his own actions when he is that drunk and that could lead him to both one and another trouble. And I don't think anyone here wants andy to get into trouble, neither anyone else of us. You see what happen to all the drunk kids here in Sweden all the time, people get killed, barfights etcetera, do I really need to continue on this? Lay down the booze a little. I know the swedish and brittish drinkingmentality is a bit the same "Get wasted" attitude, but it's not working for anyone really.

 

[marcello]

Jesus, he is responsible, she ain't his mother, and if she has to bring this riffraff up, DO IT VIA PM!

 

[KTang]

We drink in a house jallelime, not in the streets starting riots.

KT

 

[jallelime]

You don't know that mate, besides your spoiled and probably stand in line for the clubs at stureplan so what do you know?

Ktang, well that's not my point really. My point is that everyone drinking outside, at a club, bar etc. is in some sort of danger by just talking is enough these days to the wrong person. It ain't that fun after you have been beaten up.

 

[ThomasJohnsen]

marcello: I think Lynn is right, it ain't responsible at all. He couldn't be responsible for his own actions when he is that drunk and that could lead him to both one and another trouble.

And yet he had the sense to log on to the forum and conduct trades. I doubt tank gets completely sedated on alcohol unless he choses it. I reckon he knows pretty exactly how much alcohol his body can handle by now. I must admit, I fail to see the problem here. It's not like he gets himself plastered on a weeknight.

Tom


#EDIT: Hello mr. swedish Lynn-look-alike :wave:

 

[aperlov]

Wow, things change when you are gone for a while :shocked:

Anyways just stopped by to say hi all :wave:

 

[jallelime]

Haha hi thomas. Well, to be honest I don't think he should drink that much that he types like he did. Besides, when you are 16 you don't know how much you can drink, it varies to much from what type of alcohol you are drinking, what you have been eating before and so on so that's not really up for consideration that he does. I don't know how much I can drink yet, I'm pretty sure it will take a couple of years past 20 before you can be sure how much you can take.

Edit: Hi aperlov, you look cute tonight btw.

 

[KTang]

Of course Jallelime, I've had first hand experience with someone induced on drugs/alcohol and I gotta say it wasn't a nice one.

What I'm saying is I'm sure Tank knows better, although I shouldn't really be speaking for him, and that he isn't going to get himself in to bar fights or get himself stabbed or anything. I speak as if I know because I'm Tanks age and because of the times, drinking and getting drunk are a factor of our lives :/ And when I drink personally, I'm a different person. But I don't get so blistered that I run around the streets startin' on people and gettin myself all tangled up, cause thats plain stupid.

And also: I know how much I can drink, because i've drunk often and you learn from it :/ Thats why I've stopped drinking spirits, eating before my parties and I'm sure Tank would have been aware of the same thing. I know that spirits make me go over the edge, beers make me merry and alcopops add a sweet taste to my breath. We're not that foolish, and it almost comes across as if you're being slightly patronising :/ The mindset that 16 year olds don't know anything is only true in some cases, we're not ALL idiots. Anyway, I'm going to a friends house in a minute, so I won't be around to argue some more.

KT

 

[jakotaco]

Well, she might not be his mother but she has definetely got a point when she tells him to be careful with his drinking. Yes it is legal for him to drink and he's not the only one doing it. But I must point out that he seems to be drinking more than 3 times as much as I have been drinking at most. This coming from a 19 year old. (although I'm rather moderate in my drinking anyway)

I browsed his post history for yesterday. He seems to have been doing alright, although he might have confused some in the pvp, barbarian, off topic and trade values forums.

Don't stop drinking with friends, but skip the last few drinks is my advice :thumbsup:

 

[Fedmann]

As the talk has turned to drinking....

In real terms, Andy is only 16, 2 years under the legal age to drink. They don't have this age for no reason - they believe that the body under this age is not well suited to achohol. But lets face it - a few beers is not going to kill Andy off - and getting leathered every now and again isn't the end of the world.

However, drinking in general becomes a habit that is hard to break. As long as you are mindful of the dangers and generally keep everything in moderation you should be fine. Although, getting plastered weeks before your exams is not really a great way to go...:duh:

Well - on a more positive note - I just found my first ever SOJ - and there was me thinking they were a myth.. :smug:

 

[Dii Legend]

As much as I don't like it, drinking in moderation should be okay IF you can control it. When you get to the point he did last night, you are no longer able to function the way you need to. Heck, even after a couple a lot of people aren't able to function properly.

I understand that his culture says it's okay for him to do things like that, and I accept that fact. But when you go beyond the 'norm,' as he did, you are showing that you aren't responsible enough to handle yourself in those situations. Things like that are what lead to the problems a lot of adults face when it comes to alcohol consumption. Someone mentioned earlier that if it was between alcohol and drugs they would rather have him drinking than doing the other, the lesser of two evils I suppose. I would agree, but that doesn't make it any better.

It is his choice to do these things, and it seems no one really cares about it but me which is really sad. It would appear by his response that he doesn't think of me as a friend at the same level I view him, and that's fine. I'm not angry anymore, but very disappointed in his actions and I hope he is able to accept the consequences that are sure to follow such episodes in the future.

 

[jallelime]

It's easy to make a mistake, especially when drunk. I know you guys in that age drink, I do to sometimes (I'm only 2 years older as a matter of fact). But I know a couple of friends, who all have had **** because they were drinking. It wasn't necessarily their fault at first, but they made a stupid comment or so which they wouldn't have if they were sober. It isn't easy to always keep control of yourself when sober and it definitely don't get easier when your drunk.

Fedmann: Congratulations mate and I have to say I agree with you. I think we should break the legal age of drinking and put it down to 12-13 and probably it won't really be that cool to drink illegal anymore and we hopefully become like the italians, they drink wine and stuff to the dinners etc. The first years will probably be a big problem but later on it will sort things out and people will stop seeing the way they do at alcohol at the moment.

 

[KTang]

Actually Jakotaco, it is illegal for him to drink out of a house but it's legal to drink within someones premises..but yes, I agree, Lynn does have a point but geeze...

I like your bit of advice <3

I don't like how we're all talking on Lynn/Andy's behalf

And..

Grats Fedmann, I have yet to find one this year

note: I've been drunk on these forums before, and I blurt a few things. My typing gets all over the place and I just speak whats on my mind, but I don't see that as a major threat to anybody :/

KT

 

[Rabbitz]

Well, she might not be his mother but she has definetely got a point when she tells him to be careful with his drinking. Yes it is legal for him to drink and he's not the only one doing it. But I must point out that he seems to be drinking more than 3 times as much as I have been drinking at most. This coming from a 19 year old. (although I'm rather moderate in my drinking anyway)

I browsed his post history for yesterday. He seems to have been doing alright, although he might have confused some in the pvp, barbarian, off topic and trade values forums.

Don't stop drinking with friends, but skip the last few drinks is my advice :thumbsup:

It is NOT legal for him to drink. He's a UK-nian!

 

[Fedmann]

Thanks mate - I did stare at it really hard in case to changed into a bloddy Manald or summin..lol

The legal age in the UK is 18...therefore, yes Andy is too young - but what the hell - you guys never had a drink before.lol

 

[KTang]

The legal age outside of a house is 18, inside its...something ridiculous.

KT

 

[Rabbitz]

On another and more random note:

Only 10 more days before my birthday

And then.. im afraid I have to go trough the *horror* Initiation .

 

[Fedmann]

OK - it's 16 if in a resturant:

http://www.essex.police.uk/offbeat/o_wu_11.php

 

[Dii Legend]

I'm not trying to be his mother, I only wish he would listen to reason and be more mindful of what he's doing. He told me once he was a responsible drinker, and could control himself. Well, that's not what I saw last night. Casual drinking at his friend's party should have been okay, but when he started drinking more because of girl problems, and wanting to make himself feel better is the point at which he shouldn't have been drinking. It's drinking for those reasons that it becomes so much of a problem for people later in their life. And that is what I'm upset about, I don't want him to end up like those type of people.

 

[jakotaco]

It is NOT legal for him to drink. He's a UK-nian!

hmm, seems I messed up again witht the nationalities. :duh:
Then suddenly KTang's lasst post makes some sense to me.

In that case I must review some of my statements... Oh well, it's hardly gonna matter what I say anyway.

I know most of my classmates started drinking before legal age, I was the one who didn't drink and: yes it made social life lacking a bit as that was the mentallity of my class at the times. When I later on went to another school (after graduating from grade school) it was a completely different social culture. Were drinking was more of an add to the social life than the base of it.

So I can see how culture might be "demanding it" but I'm quite sure you're having more than "demanded" :wink2:

Anyway I'm quite sure you'll get more moderate as you grow up. Many underage children seems to have a hard time handling alcohol without getting completely loaded.