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Pope says Muslims are violent....

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by jackthelad, Sep 16, 2006.

  1. jackthelad

    jackthelad IncGamers Member

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    Pope says Muslims are violent....

    ....Muslims react violently.

    Well, not yet, but we can all see where this is going *cough* Mohammed cartoons *cough*

    There is a phrase that sums this up I think, something to do with proving what someone has said by your actions, but I forget what it is. Bet the Pope is thinking 'Told you so' too.

    Main article.
     
  2. Ash Housewares

    Ash Housewares IncGamers Member

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    the pope didn't say muslims are violent

    his increase in security says it
     
  3. Thyiad

    Thyiad Moderator Single Player, D2 Assassin, Barbarian

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    Self-fulfilling prophecy clicky Told you so works for me. I think ANY strong convictions that border on "I am always right, don't dare disagree with me" is asking for trouble. And that goes for Islam, Christians of any variety, abortion, animal rights pick your topic.
     
  4. HAMC8112

    HAMC8112 IncGamers Member

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    Who does this Pope think he is, doesnt he know your not allowed to talk about moslims.
     
  5. WildBerry

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    He wasn't actually even talking about Moslems. I think what got to them was making clear slanders at their Prophet and then trying to veil it under the headline of "reasonable discussion". He did say, (the whole speech here ) after all: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." Granted, this was quoting Manuel II, but clearly meant to have contemporary value.

    Imagine Smeg trying to justify his rants by appealing to "intention is to cultivate a position of respect and dialogue towards other religions and cultures" as Federico Lombardi put it, and you might be getting at the irritative part herein.
     
  6. HAMC8112

    HAMC8112 IncGamers Member

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    Seems correct to me.

    Or am i supposed to say: Oh, muslims are so peacefull?
     
  7. Dondrei

    Dondrei IncGamers Member

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    What are you talking about? Has there been violence yet?
     
  8. Ariadne

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    Some muslims are violent idiots who use religion as an excuse to satisfy their ego -
    Some christians are violent idiots who use their religion as an excuse to satisfy their ego.

    It's all the same. People matter, not their conviction. I've known rather rude and violent Christians, who said "it is Gods will now comply" aswell as peacefull Muslims who do not agree with violent "Muslims".
    It's always about people.
     
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    Nope, the point was did Muhamed tell his people to spread the Islam religion by the sword?

    Apparantly he did so Muslims around the world can stop their hypocritical whining.
     
  10. HAMC8112

    HAMC8112 IncGamers Member

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    There has been plenty in the last years, or is that not so in your world?
     
  11. Dondrei

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    I have yet to see proof of this claim. Mind you seeing as there is no authoritative English translation of the Koran they can always wriggle out of it.

    I mean in retaliation for the Pope's speech, of course. Jackthelad said they "reacted violently" but none of his links mentioned anything of the sort.
     
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    I think Hamc should be banned from talking in threads about Islam. Along with PublicEnemy. Those two tag teams bring ignorance to a whole new level.


    The pope did a good job sticking his foot in his mouth. Maybe he should concentrate on his other duties, like, I don't know, hushing up altar boy scandals, condemning abortion, and railing against homosexuality. God knows he's not doing much to help promote the cause of peace.
     
  13. HAMC8112

    HAMC8112 IncGamers Member

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    What about freedom of speech?


    I see, the Pope is banned from speaking aswell.

    A) Promoting peace is not his job.
    B) Maybe the Pope knows God better than you, after all, he speaks for him.
     
  14. Merick

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    He was quoting someone else to make a point about how holy wars are stupid. How on earth does that mean he think Muslims are violent? If I quote Hitler to make a point about genocide does it mean I hate Jews? I'm sick of people rioting over the silliest misunderstandings.
     
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    Am I the only one that sees the hipocracy of quoting a fourteenth century Byzantine Emporer to demonstrate the character of Muslims?
     
  16. Dondrei

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    *Vomits all over HAM's Treads of Cthon*

    No, but just like everyone else if he does say something stupid he's subject to ridicule. That's the other side of free speech.

    I read the original text from before and to be honest I couldn't tell what he meant by it. He is a rambling old man, after all.
     
  17. jackthelad

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    To be fair Dondrei I did say

    Tho I appreciate your fastidious & thorough policing of the forums!

    Apparently he is sorry, but a bit worryingly, not for what he actually said, just that he caused offence: as outlined here
     
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    lol.

    I agree with Vivi.
     
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    Taken out of context, I saw a correlation with Dubya ... :azn:
     
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    Muslims are the most peaceful people in the world.
     

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