Poll on the Most Skill Required pvp build

[erians]

Real builds:
Hybrid sins
BvC
Mage

Basicaly most Hybrids are required more skill, but there are ofc exceptions. Hybrid = more skills = more skills to master & more hotkeys & more rapid skill switches. As for Bow/Fury hybrids, thats not really a "real" build, there are a bunch of wierd and insane hybrids that doesnt really work unless in the hands of a super-natural uber-d0rk with liek 1337 zKiLLz. Least skill required is probably BvBs, just WW around with a million defence. Or possibly pure FoH palas, just letting Conv tap a player then click (u dont even have to name lock, a click close to the player sets off a FoH ).

 

[Amaruak]

Least skill:

any pala with foh..
bone necs
fball sorcs
any class that revolves around defensive tele spamming basicly. sure you can play them offensivly, but you get my gist.

 

[elmek]

Out of what I tried so far, must be a mage. So many skill/aura switches I was getting a headache...

 

[MysticDragon]

Least skill:

any pala with foh..
QUOTE]

Well... Some of us mentioned a Mage.

 

[jakotaco]

if someone manages to play competitively with a phoenix striker I'm sure that would count as a skilled dueler... but guess that was not what the question was about

 

[Ouallada]

Well, yeah. A mage is super hard to play perfectly. My fingers get entangled from all the hotkeying. A pure foh is devoid of skill requirements, but I'm thinking a summon necro is worse. At least the foh pally needs to desync.

 

[Rabbitz]

Out of what I tried so far, must be a mage. So many skill/aura switches I was getting a headache...

I should let u play on my assa just to mess with ur head =D

 

[ThatWasShockin]

Mage hotkeys
throw
tele
hammer
conc
foh
conv
charge
vigor
holy freeze
fant
smite
battle orders
battle command
holy shield

wwsin hotkeys
psychic hammer
light sentry
mind blast
wake of fire
battle orders
battle command
ww
tele
fade
venom
shadow
cloak of shadows
kick
throw
burst of speed
dragon flight
blade shield
balde fury

Hmm, wwsins only have a few more skills to hotkey then a mage. The wwsin is a bit easier to play for me tho, although I don't find either hard to play.

 

[elmek]

I should let u play on my assa just to mess with ur head =D

Yeah, I can imagine Rab :wink3:
Windy is fine for me so far, however on the other hand, I always wanted to master assas. Looks like I never had the luck to come across a decent claw to start one :undecided:

 

[elmek]

Mage hotkeys
throw
tele
hammer
conc
foh
conv
charge
vigor
holy freeze
fant
smite
battle orders
battle command
holy shield

wwsin hotkeys
psychic hammer
light sentry
mind blast
wake of fire
battle orders
battle command
ww
tele
fade
venom
shadow
cloak of shadows
kick
throw
burst of speed
dragon flight
blade shield
balde fury

Hmm, wwsins only have a few more skills to hotkey then a mage. The wwsin is a bit easier to play for me tho, although I don't find either hard to play.

Many of the wwsin's hothey's are buff types, so as the final conclusion, it does not turn out that bad I guess. At least you do not have to set one skill to activate another, like conc/hammer, conv/foh, fana/smite. That sucks on a Mage, at least for me.

 

[ThatWasShockin]

I just keep the skills like that right next to each other, that makes it pretty easy.

 

[Ouallada]

I would add holy shock to the list of mage hotkeys. Useful against certain necro hybrids and possibly druids to get rid of minions that have low life. Can finish off low life opponents as well at a better range than foh. Higher level means better radius than holy freeze. For pubs, where everything generally degrades into a bad mannered cesspool, I often use cleansing and meditation too. Gear switch should also be counted as a hotkey, because the switch gear is typically foh sided.

I found a mage hard when I started it because hammer and foh are not intuitively compatible, not in the way ww and traps are, or the way smite and foh are. At first, the temptation was to be defensive, as hammers and foh are great defensive weapons when used that way, but they seemed mutually exclusive at first. For a mage to go offensive, the player has to make foh and hammer combine instead of using them independently, while desyncing and using holy freeze to stop desync and to keep opponents within range. I can't really speak for a trap hybrid, but at the least the traps act as a passive source of damage, while the mage has to juggle two sources of damage. A trap hybrid's real difficulty probably lies with maintaining mobility, trap coverage and correct WW movements, while intercepting opponents with WWs and MBs.

That said, BVCs are near impossible to play perfectly as well, as are ghosts, the latter because you lack the damage from traps, so opponents can focus on venom/ow singly and react accordingly.

 

[elmek]

I would add holy shock to the list of mage hotkeys. Useful against certain necro hybrids and possibly druids to get rid of minions that have low life.

Dunno why, but only auradin pulses clear my wolves efficiently. Definitely not a holy-shock flashes of a mages. At least it never worked against my windy so far...:thumbsup:

 

[Ouallada]

Well, auradin pulses are coupled with convic. Mage pulses are without. Either convic or pulse. The thing is that when minions have low life, a pulse could kill a couple, which is more efficient than hammer or foh.

Holy shock is decent at killing low life zons as well, as they cant dodge, and it is irritating to kill a zon with 1 life with hammer or foh.

 

[Rabbitz]

Yeah, I can imagine Rab :wink3:
Windy is fine for me so far, however on the other hand, I always wanted to master assas. Looks like I never had the luck to come across a decent claw to start one :undecided:

Ahh =D , should have asked me earlier, I gave kijya almost a whole setup to toy with =P

 

[elmek]

It happens very rarely for minions to have low life, they are either dead or full.
Anyway, mage has really hard time with windy, nothing to elaborate about here.

Also for killing low life zons, I'd choose foh. Can it be dodged?

 

[elmek]

Ahh =D , should have asked me earlier, I gave kijya almost a whole setup to toy with =P

Nooo :cry: Well, perhaps he'll make more use out of it, I do not have much time nowadays to play anyway, will get better in July.
So you do not play anymore?

EDIT: Sorry Mike, I just reminded myself, that the edit button is there for a reason
My bad.

 

[Rabbitz]

I kinda still do =D but I've gotten quite some richer since u left =P . I got a tuned double outfit for my char and the previous one I was using for Kijya. Also upgraded N4blers char =D

 

[erians]

It happens very rarely for minions to have low life, they are either dead or full.
Anyway, mage has really hard time with windy, nothing to elaborate about here.

Also for killing low life zons, I'd choose foh. Can it be dodged?

Yep, but usualy zons can be killed with 1-2 convicted FoHs, so dodge is imo not a very big problem.

 

[Uncle_Mike]

I kinda still do =D but I've gotten quite some richer since u left =P . I got a tuned double outfit for my char and the previous one I was using for Kijya. Also upgraded N4blers char =D

newsflash: we have an OT thread :wave:

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