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Polearm Barb

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by drumar25, Apr 7, 2004.

  1. drumar25

    drumar25 IncGamers Member

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    Polearm Barb

    Hi I am trying to come up with a decent build for a polearm barb. I have a WW IK barb, but with 1.10 they do not seem all that good. I would like to make a new barb using polearms, but the only idea I think is viable is a conc build. How do you WW barbs survive in 1.10? I do not seem to leech at all anymore and whirlwind does not seem to function so well.

    Thanks for any input.
     
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    Sopper IncGamers Member

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    There is nothing wrong with WW in 1.10.
    Just take a high dmg weapon wich reaches final ww-breakpoint and 10% ML is more then enough.

    IK-barbs are actually pretty decent in 1.10 (much better then 1.09 version)
     
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    chubbypuppy IncGamers Member

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    Ww

    I made both an IK WW and a BOTD WW, and both works fine (of course, BOTD does a lot more damage). One thing I noticed though is that if you are in hell too early, then your level really works against you and you will have to whirl a lot to do damage since you are missing...
     
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    yea for pvm your level is just as important as your attack rating for hitting monsters
     
  5. drumar25

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    Sounds like I will give it a whirl again with some modified equip. I am also thinking the following for my pole arm barb, does this sound ok for skill placement?

    20 - Battle Orders
    20 - Shout
    20 - Concentrate (maybe less here and more in berserk?)
    20 - Whirlwind
    20 - Polearm Mastery

    Thanks again!
     
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    im currently designing a Pole Barb myself. This is ment for PVP.

    this is my frist barb in a long time so here is what i have so far.
    Keep in mind this is not final, or perfect. NOt even sure if its possible.

    Skills:
    20 WW
    20 Pole Mastery
    20 Iron Skin
    20 Battle ORders
    20 Shout
    1 Increased Speed
    1 Nat Resist.

    using 10 x Mastery Gc with Vita this will make Nat / And Fr/w skill lvl 11+
    Now i have no idea if this will work. But the idea is to get a lot of defense so you won't get hit in pvp.

    Items:
    Angelic rings x 2
    angelic ammy
    BoTd Great Poleaxe
    Gores / Imps or water walks
    Drac / loaths
    verdungo's
    Areats.

    any suggestions?
     
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    Hatebreed. IncGamers Member

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    makin a polearm WW is no different than a regular one, any WW barb only had to max WW and ur pretty much in some way a WW barb, good gloves (not the best but...) r bloodfist (as mentioned in teh conc guide) simply cuz they have leech, 20%ias <<arent that good but their hella cheap, if i remember their only heavy gloves or sharkskins,
     
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    blood fist have 10%ias no leetch and they have 30% fhr 10 min.

    upgraded is 50 def.
     
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    Bloodfists are low level unique gloves, you mean blood crafts.

    But anyways, Love's build is the better whirl build of the two, just needs a point of bcomm, berserk, and nat resist, of course. Otherwise it's stout.

    -Hal
     
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    so you think using 10 x mastery gc with vita would be gg in pvp.

    this would be a good idea i think cause it would boost def / increased speed / nat resist / and damage / ar from mastery.

    other then that how is that idea of mine??

    also what armor is gg... Stone Sacred or something with lower str req.?
     
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    Oh, i wasn't referring to your gear, just your skill placement. Gearwise, 3/20/20 are going to rock out regardless; mastery charms are nice, but won't do too much. They'll add like 50% damage, which, if you have a great BotD, is like, 250 or so; by comparison, the 39 3/20/20 would add around 1200 damage. The resist boost will be negligible, though the defense bonus would be really nice. r/w speed would be decent, but you'd get more ar and around 1600 hp from the small charms after BO. 10 points of mastery would give you maybe 1% more critical strike, that's about it.

    Enigma in a dusk shroud or archon is gg for a pvp barb. The rest of your gear looks good, but you need to replace your gloves with steelrends, since Lifetap doesn't cast on whirl, and leech is nerfed in general.

    -Hal
     
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    k,

    But i was also thinking of my Faster Hit Recov.

    since stone gives 60% and since i won't be using hardly any other Damage Reduce i would need max FHR and alot of defense.

    well what i can do is sell my Coh achron for a Nigma Achron. then make a stone after.. so i got both. hehe.... i believe defense is a big issue cause of the NO shield aspect of a two hander.

    sure i'll get hit but the def will protect me for a little bit.

    What about socketing Areats?
    Pul , or should i got for that 40/15 ias or a Um.

    i also have a lot of Sharp Gc / Lc / Sc of vita which are legit, so ill use those instead of dupes.
     
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    FHR isn't such a big deal, since you won't be interrupted on whirl. In between might be a pain in the ***, since you don't have a shield and all, but when whirling, you don't have any worries. Likewise, no amount of defense will ever make up for a shield, but a lot will help, so you're good there.

    Socketwise, for whirl, ed/str jewels all the way, if you can afford them. 40/9 are perfect.

    -Hal
     
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    For PvM I'd definitely suggest one point each in Taunt, Battle Cry and War Cry. Taunt helps with gloams and other ranged attackers while War Cry will give you some crowd control when you have to resort to Zerk because OKs are around.

    Find Item might be interesting if you want to MF with your Baba (most a level 85 areas are certainly runnable), if you don't want to spend the points you can go for +3 BO Weapon / Heart Carver on switch for at least lvl 8 Find Item.

    All of the elite Polearms will work fine, the difference in killing speed is not as huge as one might think. However Tomb Reaver really stands out thanks to it's nice resists which are otherwise hard to come by without a shield.

    Gear wise you'll probably want Arreats and then some DR. Without DR from a shield i opted to go for upgraded Shaft and String.

    Leech wise I do fine with a whooping total of 6% ML and 20% LL.
     
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    But,

    Doesn't Drac's give Open Wounds??

    Which i thought was important in pvp barb.

    Thats y some people use Fury Weapons, Drac + Gores and a Belt with Ow.

    it gives 100% ow with that setup.

    just wondering about that.
     
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    It gives 95%, as ow, like cs/ds are capped at 95%. Dracul's has ow and +str and ll, nice, but steelrends has a better combination of nice stats for pvp. I would say that cb is more important, because it takes off a % of life when it triggers.
     

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