Poison Dagger IronMan Lvl 15

Theoman

Diabloii.Net Member
Poison Dagger IronMan Lvl 15

There is an upcoming IronMan Tourny and i wish to make a PoisonDagger Necro. The cut off is lvl 15 so im wondering if this is a viable build, and if so what would it look like? :scratch:
 

Mad Mantis

D2/3 Necromancer & Witch Doctor Moderator
Welcome Newcomer to The Darkness. Grab a brew :drink: and feel free to raise some corpses.

A Daggermancer capped at level 15 doesn't seem like too hot a build to me. It will be one hell of a challenge and will probably not even be fun.

With the highest investment in PDagger you can only get it to level 10. That gives you a mere 129-153 damage. You won't have to count on the physical damage either. Your life won't be too impressive and neither will your AR.

If you really want to go for it, try putting 10 in PDagger and 1 in BA, Teeth, CE, Amp and Weaken.
 

Tengu

Diabloii.Net Member
Mad Mantis said:
If you really want to go for it, try putting 10 in PDagger and 1 in BA, Teeth, CE, Amp and Weaken.
Why on earth? :scratch: Does it work normal in duels?

Would figure though.. I never even bothered to read on weaken after I just heard somewhere that it only affects the off-hand weapon or sumthin...

Never used it, never will :p
 

EuroJamie

Diabloii.Net Member
Weaken will give 33% reduced damage from other monsters. Given MM suggests a point in this as well as BA, I reckon he's implying that a lvl 15 Daggermancer would be a pretty defensive build.

At last, a use for Weaken!!1111one1!! :yep:
 

Tengu

Diabloii.Net Member
EuroJamie said:
Weaken will give 33% reduced damage from other monsters. Given MM suggests a point in this as well as BA, I reckon he's implying that a lvl 15 Daggermancer would be a pretty defensive build.

At last, a use for Weaken!!1111one1!! :yep:
I still wouldn't use it :p


Just amp amp amp all the way :drool:
 

Theoman

Diabloii.Net Member
Then what might be a good low levele dueler? I dont think ill be able to rely on corpses so summons are out. And i think mana might be a problem with bone skills .... since dagger isnt a very good idea, what might be one?
 

Mad Mantis

D2/3 Necromancer & Witch Doctor Moderator
Theoman said:
Then what might be a good low levele dueler? I dont think ill be able to rely on corpses so summons are out. And i think mana might be a problem with bone skills .... since dagger isnt a very good idea, what might be one?
Necromancers just don’t make good low level duelers. Even if you worked around the mana problem, the damage is not that great. Sins are better suited to low level dueling.

You could also try a Meleemancer. Although I doubt you can get your AR up high enough.
 

Theoman

Diabloii.Net Member
What is a good low level dueler? Bcuz im new to the whole dueling thing ... just nbever really got into it but i wanan win bcuz for some weird fluke i won the last iron man wit ha trapper .... any suggestions to a build then?
 

Mad Mantis

D2/3 Necromancer & Witch Doctor Moderator
Theoman said:
What is a good low level dueler? Bcuz im new to the whole dueling thing ... just nbever really got into it but i wanan win bcuz for some weird fluke i won the last iron man wit ha trapper .... any suggestions to a build then?
As Fremen° said you could try the Hardcore forum.

Also Sins make good low level duellers from what I hear.
 

Fremen°

Diabloii.Net Member
Mad Mantis said:
As Fremen° said you could try the Hardcore forum.

Also Sins make good low level duellers from what I hear.
a martial arts sin thats gotten all the skills quests is my favorite hc pker. very effective;)
 

Necrochild313

Diabloii.Net Member
Honestly I had planned on making a lvl 15 daggermancer dueler last ladder season so it's really funny you mention this.

I was thinking about using 3 piece angelic (rings ammy and armor) sigons shield and helm, hrasas boots and belt, and a "malice" kris, socketing everything with jewels of envy. I was unsure of which gloves to use, possible cleglaws. I was going to use 50 psn damage grand charms.

My skills were basically 1 into the curses I could get (excluding AI) pumping pdagger as much as I could and bone wall and bone armor with remaining points. Max block of course ;)

The reason why I ended up giving up on it was due to lack of interest, the ladder resetting, and I was having trouble getting those damn 50 psndmg grand charms.
 

darnocpdx

Diabloii.Net Member
Mostly I'd rely on PD for the AR bonus and stick to using a dagger for your main attack (Diggler or Malice is a good choice.) Otherwise I'd go all +hp gear and stock up on resist charms (particularly lighting and fire) skills I'd put points into bone armor and bone wall with one point in clay, amp, weak, and IM). basically what you'll want to do is play very defencively and just get your stabs in and run and et the other players kill each other with your posion helping them kill each other, then once you get down to a few players stay back and become the second player on the one defening one (pick the ones that will give you the most trouble at the end ie kill the pallys and assassins first).

Most likely most smart players wont try to kill you first since you wont be precieved as much of threat, so use that to your advantage. Also if you can keep from cursing and targeting some of the weaker builds since they most likely will want your curses to help with the badder boys. If you can get it down to being one of the last 3 hopefully they'll all be melee and you can stab them both and then attack the one you think will win between the other two.

Personally I'd go with cleglaws for your gloves and try to stay out of combat but target those fighting that you want killed (mostly the assassins and pallys) so that the other players will have an easier time with them. Also try to cast you clay on those that are the biggest threat as well, the clegs and slow from golem can turn the tides on those that are typically the biggest threats particularily the chargers and kickasins (they wont be able to get enough room between) also keep them weakened if you can, then switch it to amp once you need to fight.
 
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