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Please tell me I'm not the only one who finds this rude if

Discussion in 'Diablo 2 Community Forum' started by snowieken, Apr 16, 2005.

  1. snowieken

    snowieken <img src="http://forums.diabloii.net/images/pal.gi

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    Please tell me I'm not the only one who finds this rude

    As you all might know - or not, whatever floats your boat - I like to play through quests and area's, getting experience along the way. Not necessarily all quests all the time, but I hate rushing. But almost every single time I join or create a quest game, it takes about five minutes before everyone starts whining to go kill the act boss. Or even worse: other people come in and kill the act boss without our presence. Every. Single. Time. Quest games seem to have become impossible. Today I called up to some punks who started doing tomb runs in our act 2 questing game. I asked them politely if they would join or create another game if running tombs was all they were going to do, but they laughed at me and continued.

    I am perfectly aware of the general behavior on Battlenet, so I'm not too disturbed by this. But it seems as if I am the only one who finds this kind of behavior rude. Most of the time my former "quest buddies" join in the fray and get carried away by the greed of rushing. More often than not I stand alone, and I can suck it up and shut up, or leave the game. Or they tell me that I should be grateful that someone wants to help. The fact that I never asked for any help seems to be irrelevant.

    I can't believe I seem to be the only one who finds this rude.

    Yay, second whine thread in a week. I'm getting in shape!
     
  2. Necrolestes

    Necrolestes IncGamers Member

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    Curiosity has been PKed

    That's about the time I seriously consider getting my ancient Poisonmancer out of retirement and using him for the sole purpose of PKing punks (of course, as I last used my Bnet accounts about a year ago, my poisonmancer's been permanently retired). The way I figure it, they entered my home without permission so now I have free license to defend myself by any means necessary.

    But, that's just me.
     
  3. LorveN

    LorveN D3 Off Topic Moderator

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    you are not the only one!

    what's even worse is when you are questing in act1, and some lvl20 dude comes in along with some booster and starts whining about killing mephy or whatever. grml!
     
  4. SeDnA

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    Hehe, thats why most of the time I don't quest in pubbies. The only time I quest is when I play with my other 3 friends.
     
  5. wedoz

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    AHAHAHAHAHAHA

    I hear ya on that one bro. I hardly ever make pub games. I usualy solo or play with my girlfriend (she lives with me, not online relationship just for clarification) but the other day I was starting a new character and she was gone so I made some pub games and the EXACT SAME thing happened in every game I made. Some higher level character would come in with some low level dude and proceed off on their own. Why not make your own game??

    What also helps is limiting the number of players allowed in the game. When I make a pub game I set it for 6 people maximum (including me) and it seems to help cut down on people who go off on their own as people who actualy want to quest are only the first few in the game. Yeah you lose the exp from 8 people games but when I'm questing I don't like that many people in there as things get chaotic.
     
  6. Armor_Biff

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    Snowieken. I understand you perfectly. Those are some of the reasons why I havent been playing in public games for a long time (there are other reasons too but no need to bring those up). I play private games only and sometimes a friend or two joins in. I have 3 comps connected to bnet so I get some decent amount of experience and item drops.

    If I remember correctly you play in Europe realm. I play in USEast ladder mostly now. Have a few non-ladder chars in Europe but most of my good stuff and chars are in USEast non-ladder.

    edit: heh, just noticed that it even says Europe below your avatar. :uhhuh:
     
  7. ladyvixen

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    Oh yes, I know what you mean. It especially happens to me when my high lvl chars create norm games (usually to clean up quests). People whine for me to rush them, or ask for other favours. I have no problem with rushing people for free sometimes, but I find it extremely rude when people assume I will because my chars are at high levels.
     
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    I remember that time I made a game called "Free Rush Norm" or something. Well some guys joined and we did all the way till act 4. While diablo was gettin hammered, some level 1 random guy joins and asks me for free rush. I said it was almost over and stuff like that. He asked me to re-rush, I said i didn't have any time for that. He said i should gib him freez1!1111!11 as compensation for not rushing him... :rant:
     
  9. Demppa

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    Yeah, I seldom quest in public games just because of those rushing guys. It seems to be impossible to get anyone do the act 3 quests 2 and 4 before travincal or meph.
     
  10. cloosh

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    what really annoys me is that they always sound like retards or 3 year olds when they type stuff. i mean, if you're going to ask for something, at least type it in some coherent english.
     
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    I find it rather rude myself. Specially because its so easy to open a game. And yet they always seem to prefer to go into someone else's games and take charge :(. Quite rude to say the least
     
  12. Sunjeet

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    This is the main reason I play Single Player only. Sure, I lose out on the awesome elite runewords, but I prefer to keep my sanity.

    I have one word that explains it all:

    APATHY!
     
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    The solution for the problem you decribe is quite simple: open passworded games and inform only your friends. No need for single player...
     
  14. Ash Housewares

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    generally I find the people who try to dictate what happens in a game rude

    unless they're interfering with what you're doing, let it go
     
  15. snowieken

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    Thanks, guys, I was getting worried already. This proves once again that the community we have here is in no way to be compared to the general community on Battle.net. I was just venting in that thread, surely I wasn't really pissed or anything - but it was at least very annoying after about 10 games of the same crap.

    Ash, they are definately interfering with what I'm doing: most of the time my quests are ruined unless I leave the game on time. Act bosses is something I always do alone, because it's a good way to find out whether you are on the right track building your character. Besides, the drops are always mine and mine alone! Muahahaha!

    Neurofuzzy: if I would have any friends, then yes, that would be a good idea. ;)

    Wedoz, that is actually a very good point. I often do that, when I make questing games, setting the allowed number of people to six, or even four. And it really helps keeping the garbage out.
     
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    I would advise putting a level restriction on your game. I like doing this especially when I have characters somewhere between 30-70. I'll set the level restriction to within 20 levels or my clvl or so. That eliminates the annoying lvl 1 spam bots, annoying lvl 1's asking for "frez plz," and in your case lvl 90 rush characters.

    That way you could still quest without as much of a chance of characters ruining your quests for you.

    Personally I only find it worthwhile to quest in Hell, as that's the only challenging difficulty, plus you have the option to find decent items while questing. I think it's cool that you want to play the game how it was designed though.
     
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    I used to actually play much similar to you. Eventually I realized...
    "Hey, there's always single player."

    If you find yourself more often than not playing alone and doing regular playing and questing, you should probably check out the Single Player Forum if you're interested in starting out in SP. The only thing we don't get are some of those new cheesy(Yet tasty) new runewords and the Anni charm.

    Then again the b.net -> SP Switch is always a rough one.
     
  18. JackGoodwin

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    this is why everyone should build dream sorcs for the sole purpose of pking. it would be great to walk up to one of these dumb ppl and punch them for 50k with a sorc :thumbsup: :clap:
     
  19. Sokar Rostau

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    Totally agree with you but you apparently havn't seen the worst of it yet. Early this year my 7 member party of lvl 12's was interrupted by someone that opened a tp to Catacombs lvl 2 while we were in Black Marsh. We had cleared almost everything and were levelling regularly and starting to gel well as a team. I stayed behind and cleared out The Hole while they went to kill Andy, I had half expected somone to come along sooner so was prepared to miss out on Andy. Problem was the rusher was a lvl 6. Needless to say the party was slaughtered several times before they somehow moved on to Act 2 (I unpartied then rejoined). They were then slaughtered a few more times in the Sewers and Maggot Lair and I have no idea how the hell they passed the Valley of the Snakes but somehow they did. They couldn't kill Duriel though lol.

    When stuff like this happens I usually just stay partied until they get to Andy or whatever so I don't lose the quest and go about the business of slowly killing solo in 8 player games.

    Then there are the people that enter your game called ActxNoRush with the heading NO RUSHING!! and proceed to try and rush you anyway then tell you to make your own game when you say something to them about it.

    Then there are the idiot high levels that come in and their method of rushing is to get everyone into Andy or Mephs Chamber or the Chaos Sanctuary and not kill anything but the boss then wonder why everyone including their lvl 75 sorc gets killed in normal by 50 assorted monsters they aren't fast enough to tele around.

    DjIgneo I have to totally disagree with you about Normal though. Despite the fact that Normal is technically easier, it is actually the most challenging part of the game, especially when untwinked. Have you ever tried to take a Wind Dru through Normal? Or a Hammerdin for that matter? Or any build that relies on a lvl18+ skill and is armed only with a synergy like Warmth or Cyclone Armour? Doing Hell with maxed Blessed Hammer is a walk in the park.

    I have come to the conclusion that D2 is actually TOO HARD for the average player, especially since 1.10. It has nothing to do with the alleged 'boredom' of killing things (despite the fact that what is cited as most boring in the game is the actual game itself and the same people rush to Baal in all three difficulties and hence only ever do one thing...yet somehow only ever killing Baal's minions (or Cows...at least Bloody runs would have had some form of variability) isn't considered boring). I see, every day, people that spend hours in chat begging for a rush through NM because, after about 100 Norm Baal runs, their level 55+ char is too weak (because they can't wear their Enoobma yet...). Other times I have seen level 6's afraid to enter the Den of Evil "because I'll get killed" (this is in softcore too). Of course it is hard when you use the exact same tactics in every fight with every build - run, fight, run, fight, get swarmed because you have run too far from your party (or you have been left behind by your party), die, spam TPTPTP, retrieve body, repeat. These same people that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag then brag about how they are Patriarchs and Matriarchs and then have the further nerve to complain that any non-cookie-cutter build is useless because they died when they tried it. No matter how 1337 you claim to be with your ebayed items if you can't kill appropriate monsters at the appropriate level then the only term applicable to you is incompetant.

    I am no longer as against rushing as I once was, especially since returning to b.net after 86 days and finding many of my characters expired and in need of a rebuild, but it is a completely different matter when you are trying to actually play the game with a new or unfamiliar (or familiar and thoroughly enjoyable) character.
    One thing I am thankful for is that there are no longer (so far as I am aware) people that know so little about the game but have accounts full of lvl 99's. In 09 I had a friend who had an entire account of level 99 characters, and many more characters lower level, and when I asked if he could help me with Izual his response was "What's an Izual?" He then spent the next couple of hours doing all his Izual quests on all of his characters.
     
  20. MapleBarb

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    I dont know how many chars this person I once was helping had. Judging from what he was telling me he had more then one lvl 90+. I was rather surprised he still didnt know what to do in act2 hell and kept asking us what to do next. This was one of the few times I actually wondered if he bought this account because it was obvious he had NO clue on how the game was played. Another time was this person who wanted my help to complete council but yet wanted to wait out in town while I killed council. I forget how many times I tried telling him he wouldnt be able to complete it from town. But he just wouldnt go to trav so after getting tired of repeating myself I left the game.

    Another thing that annoys me is those who unparty after the minions so this way they can kill baal by themselves and not share the exp with the rest. From the games I've been in this is more often a javazon. when asked why they'll say its just a game :rolleyes: well if thats the case then why not stay in the same party so this way everyone gets some of the exp? or open their own games and then do whatever they want there.
     

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