Re: PIRACY (not copyright stuff, REAL PIRACY)
You asked for mine, I didn't ask for yours, that's what I meant by relevant.
I asked what you found tragic about the outcome. But if you are separating this from the rest of your claims, fine.
What is your ground of experience? I've already before asked you not to make any comment regarded to my person, if you continue to do so, you'll loose my interest.
Discussing personal experience is silly on the Internet, as there's no way to establish credentials. Therefore, I am the immortal Queen of Sheba with a thousand years of experience in all facets of human life.
No I'm not, what I said was there hasn't earlier been made any valid statistic material of the subject, so you can't possible say anything about it, eventhough you did.
Ah, I think you're challenging my counter-claim that the "human condition" has
not advanced. *IF* you were confused on the terminology, I can see how this occurred.
It is true that you can't use metrics in a worthwhile way on philosophical trends over the millenia. If you are confusing the state of technology associated with humans (as you did) with the mentality of humans, you might imagine that because medical treatment has made improvements that therefore humans are better off. This isn't relevant, as people still fear death, suffer, and die - they just might do it from cancer caused by PCB's instead of by starvation or the mumps. But you
can look at things like war. Warfare has become more deadly, more widespread, and less concerned with rules than it was in the past. And war ties far more directly to the topic at hand than your confusion of biology with behavior.
please convince me through valid studies or don't expect me (or others) to believe you.
Ok, so you intend to have me waste time searching for studies to prove what is "common knowledge", so that you can attempt to shred my position by questioning the study without ever proving your own stance. If I am to prove beyond doubt that Western society is on a devolutionary slope, you're right, there's no way to do so conclusively. But neither are you able to prove any portion of your own claim with
any credibility that we will somehow 'outgrow' piracy, violence, and crime. It is <
that> belief I attack with venom, not your education or your grasp of English, because it has led to untold amounts of human suffering.
What?? No you don't understand my points at all, I'm not talking about evolution in the sense that you seem to be doing, I'm talking about progess in research in the human brain.
Which is exactly what I was pointing out - you're the one who went off on a wild tangent about brain research, and apparently believe that it is relevant to piracy. The only way you can make that unbelievable leap of assumption is to trust that science holds some sort of magical cure for violence, crime, and greed, as well as other facets of the human condition. We went down that road some years back,
and it wasn't pretty.
I didn't state that lust always conquers will, if that was the case there wouldn't be much point in us being existant as our free will would be limited through our environment.
Well, at least you're getting back to topic, and admitting free will.
The pirates are, in fact, quite lusty rather than the benighted souls that some would have us imagine. And so again, the pirates <choose> to conduct themselves in this manner, mainly because they can do so with low risk - less risk, I dare say, than if they were to attempt the same sort of brigand activity on land.
depending on the amount of ressources available the smartest method would probably be to actually go in Somalia and change the whole system there, making greater opportunity for the people by starting up an industry like what has been done for many years ago in Korea and other asiatic countries.
That was tried (watch "Blackhawk Down" for the cinematic version). It failed. Lawlessness and brutality are the rule there. Who would you have "go in" and fix things? America has been openly reviled for 8 years for daring to do that to a sworn enemy; seems like it's someone else's turn to play World Cop now.
And further along that line of reason, how would you propose making such changes even if someone foolhardy enough to try to make them on the ground were available? Handouts from the U.N.? Considering the bulk of such support and transmission of the support is from the West/America, then we're not only to "fix" the failed state but we're also to rebuild it. This when it is shown time & time again that U.N. Aid is addictive, corrupted, and wasteful.
@bladesyz - sure, they've been more interested in profit than bloodshed. Your point? They're storming unarmed ships with guns - guns that they are pointing at people. The death threat is implicit.
(Jmervyn: See? This is what scares me about the "terrorists ain't got no rights" position. People have absolutely no clue what a terrorist actually is, so they label anyone who does anything bad as a terrorist. Blech.)
Yeah, I caught that. Indeed, an unenlightened view of Somalia might find no terrorism at all, because the Islamists have oppressed the populace so totally that there are few beheadings going on *now*, and might assume that
the ongoing atrocities are simply primitive law enforcement (primarily due to the use of the term, "Islamic Courts" to describe the terrorists).
