Piles of Money Tourney

Fabian

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 23.694.853 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Hadn't opened D2 since I got the 22.6M last week, cause, you know, this game is boring when you don't have goals. Tonight I felt like playing though, so I respecced my level 95 Barb and put all GF equipment on him and rolled him a pretty nice Travincal map. Then:

1. 23.694.853

This game is so trolly. That is all.
 

pharphis

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 23.694.853 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Hadn't opened D2 since I got the 22.6M last week, cause, you know, this game is boring when you don't have goals. Tonight I felt like playing though, so I respecced my level 95 Barb and put all GF equipment on him and rolled him a pretty nice Travincal map. Then:

1. 23.694.853

This game is so trolly. That is all.
Sounds like you need to get another 99 barb for this tournament to really feel complete ;)
also, congrats
 

Fabian

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Well pharphis, the reason I made my 99er was originally for him to compete in this tournament. I finished him kinda in time for the MFO though, and after I rolled my map + played the MFO, I realized I can never ever reroll that Pit map. So yeah now I would kinda need to make another one, which I really don't feel like doing. Oh well.

Edit: Yeah, not useful.
 

pharphis

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

i imagine you have already, but you have looked at his council map to see, right?
 

Fabian

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
I don't know what to say about this.

Well, first, the bad. The way the runs worked out during this, I basically was left with 30 seconds at the end during which I collected no gold. There wasn't time to do a new run from there, so a decent number of time was wasted doing nothing. Now that perfection is getting closer and closer, I also judge my playing a bit more harshly than before, and there certainly were a couple spots where I waste some time doing stupid things. Overall, though, I don't think I can complain too much about that, I think the playing is mostly pretty good.

Now, the good. Holy freaking ****. From the attempts I've done in the last week, which have all been somewhere between decent to pretty good, and have all landed between 22.7 and 23.3M, I've felt comfortable that I could improve my record if things fell into place. My playing seems smoother, killing is faster, runs are quicker. Much of this is, I think, thanks to the new map. Just a matter of time and patience.

That I'd get a 25.6 though, that sure wasn't what I expected. It's tricky to predict "how high" you can go. If I look at my best single run ever and extrapolate that for an entire 30 minute block, I could probably do 45 million at least. Needless to say, this is unrealistic. Sometimes when I get a fantastic/nearly perfect beginning of a run, I do my first GoMule trip right around the 3 minute mark, and leave something like 3 million gold. That's close to a 30M pace, which is still pretty unrealistic. But not exactly impossible, in theory anyway.

This run, I did my third GoMule visit after 8:40, and had dumped 8.365.832. This works out to a 28.95M pace, which is just sick nearly 9 minutes into a run. Things progressed pretty nicely from there, too, with a few slow stretches in the middle/end, but overall "sick" is the only word I can think of to describe this run. Seriously just watch it.

1. 25.600.234 (youtube link)



(note that the actual run doesn't start until a minute in because I fail at video editing heh)
 
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pharphis

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

You're crazy!

I think you can do 28mil before too long.
Will leveling boost your CtH by any useful amount? I'm not sure what it currently is for you.
 

Fabian

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Warning: this post contains relatively little in ways of gold finding content. Instead, it mostly contains talk about statistics. Most people will probably find it uninteresting and boring.

So I've played a bit in the last week, trying to see if I could come close to the 25.6M result I got a week ago. The answer, as it turns out, is no. Nothing even remotely close. I've already played this character enough to know that wasn't surprising; the run I got last week appears to be such a huge outlier that, on its surface, it seems almost impossible to get. I was curious to see just how "impossible" it really was though, and as it happens I'm a statistics major, so I figured I should be able to calculate this.

So I ran Travincal a bunch in the last couple days, under the same conditions I usually would, except I didn't go for top speed and trying to break records, but instead I wrote down the amount of gold I found each run. If someone is interested in the statistics part, here's a spoiler button for you to click, otherwise keep going:

First calculating the mean and variance of the sample (202 datapoints), I then calculate a 95% confidence interval for the sample mean (assuming approximately normal distribution) as per

Mean +- z(0.025)*std dev/sqr(n) = 503296 +- 1.96*178713/sqr(202) = [478651 ; 527941]

and a 95% confidence interval for one random observation (again assuming iid and approx normal distribution and all that jazz) as per

Mean +- z(0.025)*std dev = 503296 +- 1.96*178713 = [153019 ; 853572]

What really interests me though is a confidence interval for the sum of 41 observations. Some googling led me to:

Mean*41 +- z(0.025)*std dev*sqr(41) = 20635133 +- 1.96*1144318 = [18392269 ; 22877997]



Here you can see the stuff I've described in the spoiler tag. On the left are the first 42 datapoints in my sample, on the right I've written down the gold collected during my record run (not really necessary for any calculations here, just interesting enough to save somewhere). In the middle you can see the 95% confidence intervals. Of particular interest is the interval for the sum of 41 (the amount of runs I have time for in my record run) random observations, [18.392.269 ; 22.877.997]. What this means is, if I were to do 30 minute (=41 run) record attempts over and over and over, 95% of those attempts would fall between ~18.4M and ~22.9M. Now, in reality, I will of course discard a huge number of record attempts, either because they didn't start out great, or because they got bad somewhere down the line. This is hard to quantify exactly, but definitely worth keeping in mind.

Now, in my record I collected 25.673.177 gold. This is ~4.40 standard deviations above the mean. If you're unfamiliar with statistics, one way of thinking about it might be taking a random person and finding his IQ to be 166 (the IQ scale has a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15). 166 is pretty damn high. So is 25.67M.

To further put this 4.40 standard deviations number in perspective, it's in the top 0.000541254% of results. Or, it's in the top one 184756th of results. It's pretty extraordinary.

If someone reported a result like this without proof, I'd assume he was lying. If someone reported a result like this with proof, I'd assume he was cheating. There's no one on this forum I trust enough where I would think this actually happened over those two possibilities. The third possibility would be that there's something (previously unknown) wrong with the numbers (perhaps that gold drops aren't random and independent of each other), and then in fourth place I would place this event actually happening.

Well, I know I haven't lied or cheated about this, so right now my feeling is that it's somewhat likely there are issues with the random number generator. One idea I have is that perhaps there's a seed number generated somewhere when you start the game which can bias for or against certain drops (like gold piles), or which might influence the size of gold piles positively or negatively, or any number of other possibilities. Of course, there's also the possibility that I got the god run of my life. Either way, I've found this decently interesting, and I've also pretty much (for real) resigned myself to the fact that I'm never beating this run. It's that extraordinary.

Cliff notes: lol statistics. lol 25.6M

Finally, if someone cares enough to play around with this themselves, here's all the data:

Code:
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pharphis

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Very interesting! I knew the significance of 4.40 standard deviations, but when you said it was 1/184756 SETS of trav runs, it finally hit me. That is indeed absolutely crazy, and now that we have some information on gold drops, perhaps someone with some game code know-how will be able to pop by and let us know.

This reminds me about how LK uses your computer's time or something like that to generate it's number.

Did all this just come to be an excuse not to try to beat your record!?

Don't forget about getting a 99er going in trav ;)
 

Fabian

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Really no idea. A couple thousand if you include all the ones where I've done one run and restarted because I got like 390k or whatever, maybe? Not something I've even remotely kept track of though. The number of attempts I've bothered finishing since I started running again recently.. maybe 30-40?

pharphis, well right now everything else about d2 is even more boring than trying to beat a 4.40 sigma event, so I'm sure I'll keep trying every now and then ;)
 

Dazliare

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Fabian,

I'm an egineering major, and I think about stat questions all the time in regards to d2, but I don't have the stats background to answer them. Would you be opposed to me PMing you about them? I'm not asking you to run a bunch of calculations - you could tell me how to do it if you like.
 

Fabian

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Daz,

Sounds like something the Anything Goes thread was made for. I'd take a look, definitely.
 

Gripphon

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Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Got idea today to try new character at goldfinding. Why should only barbs have the honor to goldfind a huge amount of gold? Why can't blizzard sorc do that too? After some theorycrafting and equipment choosing I saw blizzard sorc can be extremely efficient goldfinder. In theory. So went to test it in practice and voila. I don't really have proper equipment for this, rather some basics excluding Fathom. I think properly equipped sorc with great map might be able to aim for very very high score.

Adding myself to a table. I did test running with score of ~16 million before I get used to char for first real attempt.

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Gripphon   | Freya          | 18.245.529 |    1 |           - |Blizz  |1476   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Build: Blizzard sorceress
Players: 3
Gold picked: 18.245.529
Blizzard damage: 5821-6127
I picked up jewels, rare rings, grand and small charms, useful runes and uniques.

Equipment:
Crown of Thieves (Lem) - 148%
Death's Fathom 35% csd
Spirit Shield
Crafted amulet
Code:
Raven Eye
Amulet
Required Level: 89
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 95
Fingerprint: 0xb30237c
+22 to Strength
+17 to Mana
Regenerate Mana 6%
Fire Resist +19%
Lightning Resist +37%
Cold Resist +19%
Poison Resist +19%
+2 to Sorceress Skill Levels
10% Faster Cast Rate
Wealth Archon Plate - 300%
Goldwrap - 80%
Chance Guards - 200%
2x Dwarf Star - 200%
1.07 War Travelers - 100%

Switch: 14 BO CtA + Spirit

Inventory: 160/39/12 gheed
GC: 1 cold skills 26 gf, 1 cold skills 13 gf, 1 cold skills 10 gf, 40gf [email protected], 37gf 51mana, 30gf 30mana, 38gf 35mana
SC: 10gf 10mana, 10gf 2mana, 10gf 2mana, 8gf 9mana, 10gf 5cr, 10gf 6cr, 10gf 6cr, 7gf 16mana, 10gf [email protected], 9gf [email protected]
2x3 free space to pick items

Merc: Infinity, Vampire Gaze (ias), Guardian Angel (15 ias 24 fr)

Skills:
1 Warmth
1 Teleport
1 Static Field
17 Ice Bolt
20 Ice Mastery
Rest into Blizzard + synergies

Strategy of running:
You start and finish the run in act 4. Telekinesis to waypoint, select Travincal, cast BO (and BC if you feel you need it, I don't). Throw blizzard at minions, few glacial spikes (sometimes static field instead of glacial spike might be more useful), blizzard again, alt to show drops and pick up gold with telekinesis as you throw blizzards at minions at the same time. Pick whatever you wanna pick, tele back to act 4. When you pick up item, say grand charm, don't identify it, just toss it in stash unidentified with gold, you will see in atma what charm is. Same with anything you pick up. Then simply proceed further. Or you can identify if you really want, or feel bad to leave something on the ground, even though that rarely happens unless you really pick up many things.
 
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Grape

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Piles of Money Tourney

Wow, that's impressive Gripphon!

Now we all wonder how far can Blizzers go? Hope you experiment some more with it!

I have an ungeared blizz sorc. I tossed in equipment that looks a bit like yours. I put a Lem in my DF instead. No skillers, (I don't have any with eg). To make up for dmg loss (not sure if that's necessary), I used NW instead of CoT. Maybe I'll put a Lem in that too. That's 75+50 insted of ~150 from CoT but a 40 eg on those GCs.

No attempts yet, too tired for that right now. But this seems to work really well! Thanks for sharing this :) Now lets' go find set of skillers with 3x-40eg, 2/10 amu with 80eg... etc *drools*. This has huge potential imo.
 

Gripphon

Diabloii.Net Member
New GF record for me with my sorc.

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 19.635.381 |    x |           - |Blizz  |1610   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Build: Blizzard sorceress
Players: 3
Gold picked: 19.635.381
I picked up jewels, rare rings, flawless gems, small charms, useful runes and uniques, and random grand charms when I had space.

Build
150% Crown of Thieves
Wealth
28% Fathom (Lem)
Spirit
2 sorc/ 8fcr/ 20allres/ 56 GF amulet
Chance Guards
2x Dwarf Star
10 FHR/ 27 Str/ 12 CR/ 5 FR/ 75 GF belt
30 FRW/ 11 CR/ 23 FR/ 80 GF/ 7 MF boots

Inventory:
cold skillers with 33, 32, 31 and 26 GF, 13 allres and 15 allres GCs with 40 GF, 37 GF 52 mana GC, Gheed, 10 GF 5 allres SC and rest are Scs with random resists/mana
I have 2x4 empty space to pick stuff.

Skills:
All into Blizzard and synergies, -150% Cold Mastery, 1 point Warmth/Teleport, rest into Static Field

Method of running:
Entered Travincal, buff BO (no BC for me though), blizzard, static, blizzard, pick gold, blizzard, pick gold, ice blast when needed etc. I visited stash pretty much every second run unless I had very much luck and picked above 500k gold per run, then I went to stash it immediately. I opened stash with telekinesis (no need to walk to stash, right?), threw in charms/gems/whatever and gold, then continued running. I didn't cube gems, just threw them in stash as flawlesses. I didn't ID drops either, I see what I found in gomule.
 
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Gripphon

Diabloii.Net Member
Please, Fabnus is from another universe, it is a known fact.

With some thinking rebuilt my sorc and improved her. Improvement is easily noticeable.

Code:
| forum name| character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build  |GF kill|GF hork|
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
|Fabian     | TravBarb       | 25.600.234 |    ? |           - |WW     |1770   |2670   |
|Gripphon   | Lightfly       | 22.413.677 |    3 |  21.666.486 |Blizz  |1830   |       |
|Fabian     | AxeGoldie      | 16.481.925 |   14 |  14.114.161 |WW     |1619   |2519   |
|Gripphon   | Midas          | 15.176.224 |    3 |  14.713.981 |WW     |1609   |2509   |
|Fabian     | WWGoldie       | 13.878.412 |   25 |  11.262.666 |WW     |1458   |2358   |
|Jaedhann   | Giebgold       | 13.738.272 | many |   not sure  |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 |    7 |  11.132.742 |Warcry |2351   |2244   |
|zaphodbrx  | Hrothgar       | 12,822,317 |    2 |           - |WW     |       |       |
|maareek    | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 |   12 |   8.199.068 |WW     |1461   |2225   |
|Corrupted  | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW     |       |       |
|dune       | GoldFinger     |  8,862,493 |   31 |   not sure  |Warcry |       |       |
|Fabian     | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW     |       |       |
|zerth      | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW     |       |       |
|Fabian     | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry |       |       |
|poops      | IgorHorkov     |  7.696.746 |   10 |   5.669.806 |WW     |1062   |1836   |
|AJK        | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy |       |       |
|Cyrax      | LeapOfFaith    |  6.483.353 |    6 |   5.331.682 |Leap   |       |       |
|LHTB       | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy |       |       |
|skiff      | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Sorc   |       |       |
|purplelocus| Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap   |       |       |
|skiff      | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapsin|       |       |
|SnickerSnac| Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry |       |       |
|maxicek    | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy |       |       |
|-----------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|-------|-------|-------|
Build: Blizzard sorceress
Area: Travincal p3
Gold picked run 1: 20.993.585
Gold picked run 2: 22.413.677
Gold picked run 3: 21.592.195
I picked up jewels, rare rings, flawless gems, small charms, useful runes and uniques, rare coronets/tiaras, and picked grand charms only if I meant to go visit stash (every second run), otherwise no.

Build and equipment
Switched 4 things on sorc to profit. Fathom, Crown of Thieves and GF boots and GF belt out, GF sword + Nightwing's + Arachind Mesh + 1.07 War Travelers in. Also slightly redistributed my skill points toward Static Field side. Those changes reduced my Blizzard damage from 6200 to 5600 and upgraded my goldfind % by 200. I also lost maxed resistances, but obviously that is not needed. Conviction is only dangerous time and for that you can use mouse to move slightly from minions until boss dies.
15% CSD NMW + Lem
Wealth
Crystal Sword 6x Lem
Spirit Shield
2 sorc/ 8fcr/ 20allres/ 56 GF amulet
Chance Guards
2x Dwarf Star
Arachnid Mesh
1.07 War Travelers

Inventory:
cold skillers with 33, 32, 31 and 26 GF, 13 allres and 15 allres GCs with 40 GF, 37 GF 52 mana GC, Gheed, 10 GF 5 allres SC and rest are Scs with random resists/mana
I have 2x4 empty space to pick stuff.

Merc: Infinity + Fortitude + Steel Shade (Ral)

Skills:
All into Blizzard and synergies, -140% Cold Mastery, 1 point Warmth/Teleport, rest into Static Field. I noticed my Static Field level wasn't enough to hit all minions sometime, so few skills into it moar works nicely.

Obvious improvement would be to try Crown of Thieves on merc and to improve his GF in general. He does kill here and there after all.
 
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