Pies.

Dondrei

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Pies.

I've noticed while watching American TV that Americans appear to be largely unfamiliar with the meat pie. When people on it refer to "pie" they seem to always be talking about some kind of sweet dessert thing, apple pie or pumpkin pie (the latter of which was until recently unheard-of here) or something like that.

In Australia when you say "pie" people almost always assume you mean a meat pie. I've never heard anyone call an apple pie just a "pie", and the same goes for fruit mince pies (which are usually only eaten on Christmas) - that's about all the other kinds of pies I can think of. We don't really eat many sweet pies.

Anyway, I was wondering exactly how well-known the meat pie is in America (and Canada too while I'm at it). Are all pies in America sweet?
 

SuggestiveName

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All pies are sweet. Except for cow pies.

Meat pie is decidedly un-American for some reason. Which makes no sense, as the caloric content of said dish is simply absurd. Fast food needs to get on this meat pie deal right now.
 

Evrae Altana

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Pretty much American pies are sweet.
All of the pies I've seen on sale at the bakery are filled with sweets, and unless you specify that you want something with meat, you're going to get a sugar-laden one.
 

MinasMorgul

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Meat pie, chicken pot pie all that good stuff is well known in Canada, atleast where I am. It's as well known at the Poutine...well not really.

But even though its well known, when ever someone says pie the first thing I think of is Rhubarb pie. *drools*
 

DurfBarian

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Meat pies of various kinds do exist in America, but their names will always include the meat involved: chicken pot pie and so on. If you say just "pie" an American will generally think of a sweet fruit pie of some kind.

My favorite is strawberry-rhubarb.
 

SuggestiveName

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STOP THE PRESSES!!

I just came to a realization.

Meat pies are extremely popular in America. We simply know them as "Hot Pockets". Am I right, or what?
 

Ace_wanderer

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In NZ its the same as Australia. There used to be this chain of fast food stores called Georgie Pie that sold pies instead of burgers and they were really good. McDonalds bought the company and took over, I wish I could still buy some :(.
 

Dondrei

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Pot pies are a poor man's pie. Good pie pastry really makes a pie. The base has to be nice and dense and the top flaky and delicious.

We also have chicken pies, it's just the same as a meat pie but with chicken. And the gravy is flavoured to go with chicken, it also generally has peas and carrots in it.

MinasMorgul said:
But even though its well know, when ever someone says pie the first thing I think of is Rhubarb pie. *drools*
One of my aunts made apple and rhubarb pie when I was a kid, it was fantastic.
 

Dondrei

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Ace_wanderer said:
In NZ its the same as Australia. There used to be this chain of fast food stores called Georgie Pie that sold pies instead of burgers and they were really good. McDonalds bought the company and took over, I wish I could still buy some :(.
A couple of pie-specific chains opened here recently, until then pies were only bought from fish & chip shops, roadside cafes and so on. Jester's makes gourmet pies, which is kind of strange.

DurfBarian said:
Meat pies of various kinds do exist in America, but their names will always include the meat involved: chicken pot pie and so on. If you say just "pie" an American will generally think of a sweet fruit pie of some kind.

My favorite is strawberry-rhubarb.
Does "chicken pot pie" really mean a pot pie? That is, one without a base (or sometimes apparently a base made out of flaky pastry, I've never seen that though).
 

Dondrei

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Syxx said:
Hi Dondrei,

Meat Pies are 1 thing ... care to see how many of our Amercian / Canadian collegues know about that great gourmee aussie treat the Pie Floater !

http://www.lard.net/piefloat.html

Live and learn ..

Regards
Syxx
I know, the dreaded Meat Pie Floatie... for when you're so drunk you think food that has the appearance and texture of an over-used toilet would be a good idea.

It figures that it's from Adelaide. *shudder*
 

ffejrxx

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last fall after pheasant hunting some of the guys we went with made pheasant pot pies, kinda strange but they were good, except for spitting out occational pellets
 

Eilo Rytyj

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dondrei said:
I know, the dreaded Meat Pie Floatie... for when you're so drunk you think food that has the appearance and texture of an over-used toilet would be a good idea.

It figures that it's from Adelaide. *shudder*

Hey... I'm from Adelaide! And I'm only drunk on weekends! :drunk: :thumbsup:

Don't knock the pie floater till you've tried it, it's quite a delicacy. The Pie Cart is just there out the front of the casino, to catch all the revellers as they stumble out at all hours of the night.

Personally, I LOOOOOVE pie floaters. Topped with vinegar, tomato sauce(ketchup), some minty dressing of some sort, on top of that awesome tasty green goo... errr pea soup. You can't get much better than that.

BTW Adelaide is also the home of Farmers Union Iced Coffee AKA Nectar of the Gods. I used to drink almost a litre a day, up to 2.5 litres one day, but i've had to cut down. It's apparently bad for the health if you drink too much of it.
 

Bortaz

Banned
Yay.
Delicious.

Natchitoches hot meat pies
Categories: Meal pies Ground beef Pork Restaurant/
Yield: 18 Servings 4 c All purpose flour
2 ts Baking powder
1 ts Salt
½ c Shortening; melted, not oil
2 lg Eggs; lightly beaten
Cold milk
2 tb Bacon; minced
2 tb All purpose flour
½ lb Ground beef
1 ½ lb Ground pork
2 lg Onions; chpd
3 Ribs celery; chpd
1 bn Scallions; chpd
¼ c Parsley; chpd
½ ts Pepper
½ ts Cayenne
1 ts Salt
1 ts Dried thyme
¼ ts Oregano
1 tb Tabasco
Oil for frying

PASTRY MEAT FILLING Pronounced Nackatosh. Pastry: Sift flour, baking powder and salt in mixing bowl; make a well in the center; stir in shortening and eggs. Add enough milk to make a stiff dough. Chill at least 30 minutes or up to overnight. Filling: Cook bacon, add flour; cook until golden brown, stirring constantly. add beef and pork; cook until brown and roux is absorbed. Add onions, celery, scallions, parsley and seasonings; cook until vegetables are limp. Set aside to cool. Roll pastry thin and cut out 6" circles using a saucer; fill with 1 1/2T meat mixture (don't overfill or pastry will split). Dampen dough edges with water; fold pastry over filling. Crimp edges with a fork. Deep fry until golden or bake 400 F. MC shared by Sherilyn Schamber, April 1998 Recipe by: Miss Ruby's American Cooking Posted to MC-Recipe Digest by Sherilyn Schamber <[email protected]> on Apr 20, 1998
 

Syxx

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Hi All,

@ Bortaz : Them there pies you are talking about sound delicious. It says the recipes serves 18. Is that 18 normal people or 18 midgets ? I can't tell from the amounts as they are the imperial measurement, and I use metric when I cook.

@ Eilo Rytyj : An Adelaidian eh .... Is Adelaide tap water still full of nasty bugs ? After a hard night on the turps, I remember drinking some in an attempt to overcome the dry horrors, only to wake up next morning with some sort of stomach bug that layed me out for 2 days. Apparantly it doesn't effect the locals, only out of towners. Hehe, maybe I should have drunk some "Farmers Union Iced Coffee" instead :)

Regards
Syxx
 
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