Perfect Ravenlore or Shako for Wind Druid

danvu87

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Perfect Ravenlore or Shako for Wind Druid

RAVENLORE:
+(120-150)% Enhanced Defense
All Resistances +(15-25)
+3 to Elemental Skills
+(20-30) to Energy
-(10-20)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+7 to Raven


SHAKO:
+2 to All Skills
+1.5 Life per clvl
+1.5 Mana per clvl
+50% Better chance of getting magical item
Physical Damage Taken Reduced by 10%
+2 to Strength
+2 to Dexterity
+2 to Vitality
+2 to Energy

Which is better?
 

Gotcha

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danvu87 said:
RAVENLORE:
+(120-150)% Enhanced Defense
All Resistances +(15-25)
+3 to Elemental Skills
+(20-30) to Energy
-(10-20)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+7 to Raven


SHAKO:
+2 to All Skills
+1.5 Life per clvl
+1.5 Mana per clvl
+50% Better chance of getting magical item
Physical Damage Taken Reduced by 10%
+2 to Strength
+2 to Dexterity
+2 to Vitality
+2 to Energy

Which is better?
Shako is IMO and most others far superior to ravenlore, and I would say IMO Jalal's is better then both unless you really need mana. For a Windy the +2 to all skills does not really help a windy with CTA since the mana and life are not calculated due to the chr lvl issue. Jalal's has much better FHR and with a shael has 50%, that is a huge amount toward the 99% breakpoint.

Jalal's > Shako > Ravenlore for a windy IMO, unless like I mentioned you really need the mana. For PVP though I would be striving to get 800-900 mana with CTA since for BVC's you may need it.
 

Gotcha

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Woops, forgot to mention,

If you do not have a ber to place in SS with Jalal's then Shako would be the best bet.
 

Aron Figaro

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Wow.

I can't believe I never noticed the fire resist penalty on Ravenlore...I'll have to pick one of those up for my Fire druid...*goes to check trade value forum*
 

danvu87

Banned
wow i just looked at the stats for jalahs and i didnt know they were that good..i never noticed the 30/30 ster energy and the res
 

wannagethigh

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I cant believe you cannot decide over 1 skill point and resistance over life and mana. Druid has a decent amout of life and mana is not a problem if you get a merc with insight. (Thats what i have anywho) I socketed my raven with an um rune. Not loocking into the fact that perfect raven is hard to come by. Mine is 23 resistance and -11 fire. The best one i've ever seen was -20/20 sold for a jah. But man, I suggest raven all the way. GL
 

Gotcha

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wannagethigh said:
I cant believe you cannot decide over 1 skill point and resistance over life and mana. Druid has a decent amout of life and mana is not a problem if you get a merc with insight. (Thats what i have anywho) I socketed my raven with an um rune. Not loocking into the fact that perfect raven is hard to come by. Mine is 23 resistance and -11 fire. The best one i've ever seen was -20/20 sold for a jah. But man, I suggest raven all the way. GL
Na, for a wind druid the 2 to druid skills is better then the +3 elemental. The 2 help your summons and Jalal's has 30% FHR (with shael 50% FHR) and 30 resists. Your summones get help and the +1 to elemental is nothing just for +1. If you were using the fire tree then the ravenlore becomes a viable helm for the - fire resist, etc. If you are debating over just the added +1 to elemental, don't. For a wind druid I rank them

Jalal's > Shako > ravenlore. If the + to elemental is important then start looking for the godly helms +2 Druid/+3 tornado+++++ rares or the +3 elemental/+3 Tornado ++++ helms. And remember if you are going Jalal's you will need a Ber in SS to get that 50% PDR, if not shako may be better.
 

TheGreatDivorce

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Jalals' Mane > Harlequins' Crest > Crown of Ages > Ravenlore > Nightwings' Viel > Spirit Keeper as far as Uniques go.

I think I (or someone) did a test awhile ago and found out that Harlequins' Crest > Jalals' Mane for Windie vs. Windie Duels' if you fancy that.
 

Sartok

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TheGreatDivorce said:
Jalals' Mane > Harlequins' Crest > Crown of Ages > Ravenlore > Nightwings' Viel > Spirit Keeper as far as Uniques go.

I think I (or someone) did a test awhile ago and found out that Harlequins' Crest > Jalals' Mane for Windie vs. Windie Duels' if you fancy that.
Why does spirit keeper rank so low on that list? It has skills, FHR, some res I believe... seemed alright to me... could you explain what kind of setup you use.. because right now I am using Jalal's, though thought a CoA might have worked better to reach big FHR, it seemed like a good solution... Though when using Jalal's what other kind of equip do you use to hit the 99FHR BP. I have FCR hit no problem... but FHR seems tough. Also, where do you acquire the CBF mod... I am trying to avoid Cham'ing something...
 

TheGreatDivorce

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Though when using Jalal's what other kind of equip do you use to hit the
99FHR BP
Jalals' Mane (Shael) (50 FHR)
Enigma
Heart of the Oak (40 FCR)
Stormshield (Ber)
Arachnid's Mesh (20 FCR)
Magefists (20 FCR)
Sandstorm Treks (20 FHR)
2x FCR Rings w/ str. and life (20 FCR)
Gaeas' Amulet of the Whale
Annihilus
8x Small Charms of Vita
Small Charm of Balance (5 FHR)
8x Natural Grand Charms of Vita
2x Natural Grand Charms of Balance (24 FHR)

100 FCR/100 FHR.

Also, where do you acquire the CBF mod... I am trying to avoid Cham'ing something...
I don't see why CBF would be such an important attribute to a caster.
 

Gotcha

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TheGreatDivorce said:
Jalals' Mane (Shael) (50 FHR)
Enigma
Gaeas' Amulet of the Whale


I don't see why CBF would be such an important attribute to a caster.
Man I have been gambling for that amulet since the second season of ladder started and I can not tell you how many millions I have gone through, hehe, lots of +1 druid skill/95+'s but that ammy is I would say very godly grrrrrrr. Nice to see someone else thinks the way I do.

I agree CBF is not that important for a caster, Windy's are always teleing so CBF is not importand IMO since it does not slow down casting.
 

FrozenSolid

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TheGreatDivorce said:
Jalals' Mane (Shael) (50 FHR)
Enigma
Heart of the Oak (40 FCR)
Stormshield (Ber)
Arachnid's Mesh (20 FCR)
Magefists (20 FCR)
Sandstorm Treks (20 FHR)
2x FCR Rings w/ str. and life (20 FCR)
Gaeas' Amulet of the Whale
Annihilus
8x Small Charms of Vita
Small Charm of Balance (5 FHR)
8x Natural Grand Charms of Vita
2x Natural Grand Charms of Balance (24 FHR)

100 FCR/100 FHR.



I don't see why CBF would be such an important attribute to a caster.
I think some clan duells forbid teleporting so cbf would be vital for such duells. Someone correct me if Im wrong :eek:
 

nightaswz

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hmm what do u guys say to a +2 druid skill, +92 life circlet with 2os shaeled
Where does that rank according to jalals, shako and etc
 

Gotcha

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FrozenSolid said:
I think some clan duells forbid teleporting so cbf would be vital for such duells. Someone correct me if Im wrong :eek:
No you are correct, yet in general it is not needed. If you duel in leagues that do not allow teleport make sure you have the CBF mod. In general, although, it is not needed IMO.
 

rogier

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TheGreatDivorce said:
Jalals' Mane (Shael) (50 FHR)
Enigma
Heart of the Oak (40 FCR)
Stormshield (Ber)
Arachnid's Mesh (20 FCR)
Magefists (20 FCR)
Sandstorm Treks (20 FHR)
2x FCR Rings w/ str. and life (20 FCR)
Gaeas' Amulet of the Whale
Annihilus
8x Small Charms of Vita
Small Charm of Balance (5 FHR)
8x Natural Grand Charms of Vita
2x Natural Grand Charms of Balance (24 FHR)

100 FCR/100 FHR.



I don't see why CBF would be such an important attribute to a caster.

lets bring coa into this ^^
coa(shael+7fhr/-req/other mod jewel) 57%fhr
enigma
hoto
storm(-req/res)
shadow dancers(30fhr)
magefist
arach
rings/amu of your choice. 19-20%fcr total :)
all life/mana scs, 1x ele/fhr rest ele/life

i think this setup gives more life. you'll get +1allskills(extra BO lvl) instead of +2 druid, better resist in general, only 133str needed for the -req storm, blah blah. all that for only a lousy +1 skill lost

if you have godly fcr rings 10fcr 20str 15dex life etc you might aswell go for all lifeskillers and dual shaeled coa right?^^
 

Gotcha

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rogier said:
lets bring coa into this ^^
coa(shael+7fhr/-req/other mod jewel) 57%fhr
enigma
hoto
storm(-req/res)
shadow dancers(30fhr)
magefist
arach
rings/amu of your choice. 19-20%fcr total :)
all life/mana scs, 1x ele/fhr rest ele/life

i think this setup gives more life. you'll get +1allskills(extra BO lvl) instead of +2 druid, better resist in general, only 133str needed for the -req storm, blah blah. all that for only a lousy +1 skill lost

if you have godly fcr rings 10fcr 20str 15dex life etc you might aswell go for all lifeskillers and dual shaeled coa right?^^
Actually depending on how you look at it I would say that from the helms listed Jalal's is still better. I mean IMO there are much better godly helms to be found but for the general uniques listed IMO I do not think that the added +1 or +2 to CTA and the BO is anything anyway. As for Jalal's or COA there is also the general issue of the added +3 to summons over COA. I mean in PVP I would tend to think that every added point you can get if not going for a max damage godly helm is the way to go just for that reason alone and giving your summons a tad more life, etc. has to be a good thing right?
 

TheGreatDivorce

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nightaswz said:
hmm what do u guys say to a +2 druid skill, +92 life circlet with 2os shaeled
Where does that rank according to jalals, shako and etc
Vs. Casters, Jalahs' is the ultimate helm unless you want to spend 100+ runes to get a godly rare pelt. Jalals' gives 20 strength, 20 enegry, 30 to all resists and 10% more FHR then your circlet at the cost of 92 life. That extra 10% FHR would phase 30 or so life from the circlet as you'll need an extra FHR GC and you'll need to put points into strength to be able to support Stormshield unless you have 18 or so strength FCR rings. So you pretty much gain 60 life while losing 20 strength, energy and 30 to all resists.

Vs. Windies, it seems pretty equal, it probably gives like 150 or so life more then Jalals' with BO and Oak, but I like the versatility of Mane a lot more.
 

Sartok

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Forums were down, but on my own I ended up using Shadows for the dex, I got a nice 10 FCR, +2 skills, 20 Res ammy, and a raven. Though the AR may not help on the raven, the CBF, Dex, and Mana do alot. With the raven/shadows all of my pts go into vita now and I still keep up max block.
 
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