Pentagon creates Media Corrections unit

WildBerry

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6100906.stm

Well, okay maybe they aren't in direct control of EVERY news outlet. But they may have quite the guiding hand in one or two.
You know, I can so see it.

"We think 'massacre' is giving a fallacious image of the actions of the Army - besides, it's such a strong word. We prefer you'd change your choice of diction to 'pacification'."

I wonder why'd they need that, though. Those who will jump when they tell them already do that by themselves.

In all honesty, though, I suppose the section is mostly associated with "getting the facts straight" - as a first-hand source for statistics, say.



 
Gee, maybe if there weren't so many lies being told by the BBC and CNN, this wouldn't have been necessary!

Knife
Nose
Spite
Face
Some assembly required
 

Dondrei

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Hi Geeno, haven't seen you in a while.

Geeno's link said:
Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said earlier this year the US was losing the propaganda war to its enemies.
What's the matter, catapult not working?
 

llad12

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Propaganda is to democracy what violence is to totalitarianism ... Noam Chomsky
 

Dondrei

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Exactly. Democracy requires its leaders be able to get their message to the masses.

EDIT: oh, were you trying to imply that it's a bad thing?
Actually, democracy requires all candidates to be able to get their message to the masses. And they aren't allowed to lie either, which is one difference between political broadcasting and propaganda. Not that people remember that much anymore, but that's a sign of the deleterious effect of partisan politics on democracy.



 

PlagueBearer

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Actually, democracy requires all candidates to be able to get their message to the masses.
All candidates are leaders.

And they aren't allowed to lie either, which is one difference between political broadcasting and propaganda. Not that people remember that much anymore, but that's a sign of the deleterious effect of partisan politics on democracy.
Propaganda =! lies. Propaganda =! misleading, even.



 

llad12

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Exactly. Democracy requires its leaders be able to get their message to the masses.

EDIT: oh, were you trying to imply that it's a bad thing?
IIRC, ~70% of the American public believed that Iraq was directly involved in 9/11 at the start of the Iraqi war.

Gee, how do you think that came up with that idea?

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Why does, all too often, misleading negative campaign advertising dominate our electorate process today?

'nuff said


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PS: Regardless of your insinuations fellas, Chomsky has it right and I give credit where credit is due.



 

jmervyn

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EDIT: oh, were you trying to imply that it's a bad thing?
Well it depends on the message. Anything implying that America is an evil country run by the oil interests is just swell. :thumbsup:

As to the article, it made me want to cry. The fact that the group that <ought> to be doing this has ceased to exist and the State Dept. apparently doesn't give a rat's arse about it guarantees that people like Ill won't have any counter-balance in the war of ideas. And yes, long-time forumites will remember that my Mom worked for said agency.

It just makes matters worse that the DoD will be doing a lousy job in this arena - has anyone here ever watched AFN? God help us...



 

jimmyboy

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I find it funny that the Pentagon has to set up its own information system to provide PROPAGANDA to Americans (Rummy's own words).

I was under the impression that we Americans wanted independent news rather than propaganda.

Looks like Fox News is not doing their job.
 

Dondrei

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the State Dept. apparently doesn't give a rat's arse about it guarantees that people like Ill won't have any counter-balance in the war of ideas.
I've always kind of thought we need balance rather than counter-balance. But no, go right ahead and respond to one kind of blind partisan idiocy with another, gee I wonder why this election season has been particularly vitriolic.



 

jmervyn

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I've always kind of thought we need balance rather than counter-balance. But no, go right ahead and respond to one kind of blind partisan idiocy with another, gee I wonder why this election season has been particularly vitriolic.
Since when did you vote for Al-Quaeda? :rolleyes:

(I'm talking about balancing foreign propaganda, son)



 

llad12

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Since when did you vote for Al-Quaeda? :rolleyes:

(I'm talking about balancing foreign propaganda, son)
As to the article, it made me want to cry. The fact that the ... State Dept. apparently doesn't give a rat's arse about it guarantees that people like Ill won't have any counter-balance in the war of ideas.
So ... are you therefore implying that I am an agent of AQ now? :rolleyes:

It's apparent that some of noxious fumes you sucked up in the Gulf (oil) War have had some serious mind-altering effects. You might want to check-in to your nearest VA hospital for a CAT scan Jman. :jig:



 

bladesyz

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Exactly. Democracy requires its leaders be able to get their message to the masses.

EDIT: oh, were you trying to imply that it's a bad thing?
Chomsky is saying that they are both means of control. Democracy uses propaganda, totalitarianism uses violence. Different methods, same objective/result.

Propaganda != information.



 
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