Pedophilia POLL!

[HegemonKhan]

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wait, are u saying u actually believe this "study" to be scientific ??

if yes, i have no comment......

 

[Garbad_the_Weak]

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Yeah. Call me crazy, but I think an article by the American Psychology Association is more reliable than a quasi literate random eperson.

 

[HegemonKhan]

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meh, fair enough, u can (and will) have whatever impression of me as u want and just as i have with u and jsut as everyone has with everyone, and many people do feel the same as u do, i just don't see people ("psychologists/psychiatrists/other "mental health" workers) who play god "telling/deciding" who's "normal" and who's "not normal", should receive any attention/credibility from me anyways.

we've had enough of such evil people, like hitler, spanish inquisition, witch hunters, KKK, slavery masters, etc... who think some people are better or worse than other people, more human or less human than others.

and now in today's time we got "doctors/medical people" like psychologists and psychiatrists who are carrying on hitler's genocidal legacy of deciding and acting upon who's human and who's not, who's normal and who's not, who's inferior and who's superior....

i don't and have not called u crazy. u used that word in YOUR post above.

this is because i understand/feel that:

every human being has the exact same biological structured brain. those brains are working for every decision/action u make/take.

NO ONE is "crazy" to me. every action or decision a person makes has a "sane" and well thought out and rationalized/justified reason. some being valid and some not, in other people's opinion or view. but every and any decision/action is done for a reason or purpose. to me there's no such thing as an "irrational" or "crazy" person.

 

[Tanooki]

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It is interesting that, by their definition, many people throughout history have been pedophiles.

I mean, a brain disorder is universal, right? Either you have it or you don't. It doesn't depend on the culture the individual lives in.

 

[Garbad_the_Weak]

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meh, fair enough, u can (and will) have whatever impression of me as u want and just as i have with u and jsut as everyone has with everyone, and many people do feel the same as u do, i just don't see people ("psychologists/psychiatrists/other "mental health" workers) who play god "telling/deciding" who's "normal" and who's "not normal", should receive any attention/credibility from me anyways.

we've had enough of such evil people, like hitler, spanish inquisition, witch hunters, KKK, slavery masters, etc... who think some people are better or worse than other people, more human or less human than others.

and now in today's time we got "doctors/medical people" like psychologists and psychiatrists who are carrying on hitler's genocidal legacy of deciding and acting upon who's human and who's not, who's normal and who's not, who's inferior and who's superior....

i don't and have not called u crazy. u used that word in YOUR post above.

this is because i understand/feel that:

every human being has the exact same biological structured brain. those brains are working for every decision/action u make/take.

NO ONE is "crazy" to me. every action or decision a person makes has a "sane" and well thought out and rationalized/justified reason. some being valid and some not, in other people's opinion or view. but every and any decision/action is done for a reason or purpose. to me there's no such thing as an "irrational" or "crazy" person.

And that's where we differ. I believe in the rational pursuit of truth through the scientific method. Relativism is so often an excuse for a lack of rigor. Many of your opinions are not real opinion, but just incorrect facts.

I mean, a brain disorder is universal, right? Either you have it or you don't. It doesn't depend on the culture the individual lives in.

People really need to read closer. That list that is posted up is a definition, not a finding.

 

[Glurin]

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How would you ever prove that the fake stuff turns people into pedos when most of the country is so squeamish about real porn between adults that you could never get a good control sample? Its like banning alcohol and then doing a study decades later showing everyone who drinks beer is an alcoholic. At that point most of the people wanting the stuff are alcoholics anyway.

A bit simplistic, but I hope it gets the point across.

 

[tarnok]

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I wasn't able to read the article in question. Link didn't work for me for some reason. I suspect though that you're guilty of a basic logical error in saying that it has been shown that there is an increased incidence of pedophilia (by which I mean actual child abuse) in populations that view artificial pornography of children.

 

[BobCox2]

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Real world OT news to make you laugh and think.

Meet Michelle Owen. Concerned that an ex-boyfriend had used her laptop to search for child pornography, the Indiana woman asked police to search the computer for illegal images, but had her plan backfire when cops discovered two videos of her engaged in illicit acts with a dog. Owen, 24, was charged last week with two felony bestiality counts in connection with the video files, which a detective found in the laptop's "recycle bin." At the time Owen asked cops to search the computer, she was locked up in the Johnson County Jail on a public intoxication charge (which violated the terms of her release in a prior drunk driving case). According to a police affidavit, a copy of which you'll find here, a cop told Owen that he had found videos of her on the laptop and asked if she "knew what those files might be." Owen, pictured in the below mug shot, replied, "The one with the dog." Cops believe that the dog in question, Toby, is a beagle. After asking if she was "going to be charged with this," Owen said that the videos "were just something she did when she was drunk and barely remembers it," adding that she tried to "delete them the next day when she was sober."
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0318091dog1.html

So just to Ask should this even be a crime? No Abuse of the Dog, etc.
Besides Stupid and Ironic, What do you think?

 

[SaroDarksbane]

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You can look up all kinds of studies showing that almost 100% of convicted rapists watched porn at some point before they committed their offenses.

Obviously, this is conclusive proof that porn is a one way road straight to rape-town.

Also, disagreeing with Garbad about pedophilia makes you a closet pedophile. I'm sure he's already lodged complaints with the appropriate authorities. Enjoy your stay in prison, . . . pervs. :coffee:

 

[HegemonKhan]

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100% of humanity has looked at porn....should we all be arrested as possible or probable rape criminals ?

sighs... rational...such a relative and arbitrary term...who's rational ??? :

my rational or your rational or his rational or her rational or they's rational or them's rational or us' rational ?
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Also, disagreeing with Garbad about pedophilia makes you a closet pedophile. I'm sure he's already lodged complaints with the appropriate authorities. Enjoy your stay in prison, . . . pervs. -sarodarksbane

also, it makes u (or jsut me) :

un-rational, un-vigorous, and my opinions are incorrect facts

according to (as seen below) :

And that's where we differ. I believe in the rational pursuit of truth through the scientific method. Relativism is so often an excuse for a lack of rigor. Many of your opinions are not real opinion, but just incorrect facts. -garbad

i pity anyone with such "tunnel-vision" that they think everyone who differs from them is all these offensive, derogatory, negative, and insulting things ...

 

[BobCox2]

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100% of humanity has looked at porn....should we all be arrested as possible criminals ? or probable rape

sighs... rational...such a relative and arbitrary term...who's rational ??? :

my rational or your rational or his rational or her rational or they's rational or them's rational or us' rational ?

I think your Ill or is it Irr? (Anyhow My grandkid's are all under age 7 and they have not seen porn so thats a false statment to start with)

So why was there so much rape etc before film and porn existed?

 

[HegemonKhan]

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err. my mistake...100% of humanity WILL look at porn...at some point (age).

obviously...little kids hopefully don't or aren't able to (besides the possible such magazines lying around in some households)...

did u really need to make a post about such obviousness.... V.V

of course my 100% was NOT referencing lil kids. duh... V.V

 

[Telzen]

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Haven't read the thread yet, but you need a "Like loli but not real children" option. I like lolicon but don't find real children attractive and so wouldn't want to do anything to one. I think that's how a lot of people that like lolicon feel. Figured I'd mention it since this thread probably came about because of the anime one. I like women of pretty much all ages except toddlercon(want to hate on something, look this up) and grannies lol. Though real pedophiles seem more attracted to the age over anything else, which I don't get. Why are so many male pedophiles attracted to little boys?

 

[HegemonKhan]

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personally, i don't understand pedophilia at all. everything i like in a girl's (human female's) body isn't there until usually they are near the legal age (18) and even if their bodies are "adultly/womanly/curvedly" developed before 18, it's illegal anyways. it's probably not appropriate to go into the body that i like, but i'm sure u can figure out what such "body" i like in the opposite sex from "adultly/womanly/curvedly", if u try.

 

[BobCox2]

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err. my mistake...100% of humanity WILL look at porn...at some point (age).

obviously...little kids hopefully don't or aren't able to (besides the possible such magazines lying around in some households)...

did u really need to make a post about such obviousness.... V.V

of course my 100% was NOT referencing lil kids. duh... V.V

Cool, Cool. I knew was not intentionally false, like some other mistakes you have made, and we all make mistakes, just from my viewpoint I thought I would point it out (and I did it in parentheses as I was trying for a fun word play as my first point)

 

[tarnok]

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You can look up all kinds of studies showing that almost 100% of convicted rapists watched porn at some point before they committed their offenses.

That's the error I was expecting to find in the article. Saying that out of all of the people who have been convicted of pedophilia a large number have looked at "quasichildporn" is not at all equivalent to saying that out of all of the people who look at "quasichildporn" a large number also abuse children.

 

[stillman]

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^ It's also kind of like saying all bank robers have had water to drink; therefore, water is closely tied to bank robery.

Of course, if someone is a convicted sex offender, they are going to have looked at porn. Why wouldn't they? You may as well say almost 100% of smokers have bought lighters.

 

[Tanooki]

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I'll betcha (without wasting government money to do the study) that every single drunk driving accident was caused by someone who, at some point in their life, drank alcohol.

Therefore, everyone who drinks alcohol should be arrested now before they get into their drunk driving accident. We need to protect the children. And if you disagree, you're a closet drunk who can be labeled and then dismissed.

 

[Johnny]

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I'll betcha (without wasting government money to do the study) that every single drunk driving accident was caused by someone who, at some point in their life, drank alcohol.

Therefore, everyone who drinks alcohol should be arrested now before they get into their drunk driving accident. We need to protect the children. And if you disagree, you're a closet drunk who can be labeled and then dismissed.

Yeah 2 people already made the point before you.

 

[SaroDarksbane]

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Yeah 2 people already made the point before you.

Actually three, if you count me.

(Hege apparently didn't sense the dripping sarcasm in my post, but honestly I expected that. :badteeth: )