Pdagger Bug - Test Results

[Necrochild313]

nice work NC :thumbsup: (too late but today I've read this post :s )

Thanks usamahanas

 

[Smrtihara]

I just saw this as I'm new to necros (starting my first today). Intresting read. Though I have to say that 10 attacks in each try is far too few. Try getting 2/2, heads/tails on flipping a coin 4 times. I know that it would be far too time-consuming to do more tries but still.

 

[Necrochild313]

10 trys is a bit few, that's why I tested each weapon 5 times and used the average of each test to calculate my results for it. That's 50 attacks per wep Smrtihara .

 

[Smrtihara]

Oh! Silly me! I do understand that now. I had a go at the massive post in the middle of the night and I guess I wasent paying enough attention. Sorry.. Keep up the good work! Ehmm.. err.. :cheesy:

 

[Necrochild313]

bah, **** happens

 

[squigipapa]

Darksight Helm has level 5 cloak of shadows (30 charges) which would raise your attack by 22% and lower an enemy's defense by 27%. Repairing charges would be pretty expensive, but if you used an ITD item and just used the charges on uniques/super uniques/bosses, it may be do-able.

As well, probably a better way would be having a CTA (Call To Arms) on switch, with a potential +4 to battle cry, an anihlus and +2 from some other source, would bring you to a level 7 battle cry, reduceing the enemy's defense by 62%. Again this would be great in combination with an ITD main weapon, and using battle cry for uniques/sup. uniques/bosses. At least with that you woulden't have to pay the crazy repair costs for charges. Plus the range on battle cry is pretty much the full 800x600 screen. As well, battle cry would also decrease the damage of any monster under it's effects.

 

[Mad Mantis]

As well, battle cry would also decrease the damage of any monster under it's effects.

Curses and Battle Cry don't stack, do they? If they don't stack then you might not want to use the cry.

You can also use Demonlimb for the Enchant. Or a Nadir helm with level 13 CoS.

 

[Necrochild313]

I thought CoS improved your def/diminishes their def.

I could be wrong.

 

[Mad Mantis]

I thought CoS improved your def/diminishes their def.

You are correct. It raises your Def and lowers theirs.

 

[squigipapa]

You are correct. It raises your Def and lowers theirs.

woops .. sorry .. .. but AFIK, battle cry will not override other curses.. however, i'm not 100% sure on that one .. anyone?

 

[Necrochild313]

I'll test it tonight

 

[poor_assassin]

now that its known pdagger bug is just a display error, is it possible for the marrow bug to be another display error? do we have to do another experiment to confirm the marrow bug?

 

[Mad Mantis]

The tests with Bone Armor show that Marrowwalk is more than just a display error.

 

[Necrochild313]

Yep, I've used a bugged bone armor and with marrows on it absorbed ALOT more than 1 pt into the skill alone could dream to.

I do still need to test whether BC is overridden with decrep, I got too busy with my studies and forgot

I'll post it up when I get home.

 

[ALtheDefender]

Plus the range on battle cry is pretty much the full 800x600 screen.

Before anyone goes and tests this out, I thought I'd clarify something. Battle cry does indeed greatly reduce the target's defense, but it's radius is only about 2 enemies long. I believe squigipapa is thinking of warcry when he references the big radius.

I'm still of the belief that using CTA for the battle cry is an excellent option, but it's tiny radius makes it much more dangerous to use and will require more frequent recastings than the previous posts may have one believe. Still, this may come in handy, as the rest of the monsters on the screen can be kept under DV (assuming that battle cry overrides curses) while you take out small groups at a time with battle cry.

Hope this helps!