Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal der=

maareek

Diabloii.Net Member
Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

When I made Patior I figured I was done with the Passion Thunder Maul, but when lionheartthebrave asked if I had any future plans for it, a build popped into my mind. The character you will meet in this thread is the fruition of that thought, so I guess he gets the biggest thanks of all, even a first paragraph mention, for sparking the idea.

The Character

Name: Zealalittle
Class: Paladin
Level: 84

Naked/Gear
Strength: 273/328
Dexterity: 20/40
Vitality: 207/207
Energy: 15/15
HP: 827/1080 (2046)
Mana: 139/179 (355)
AR: 85/75225

Fire: 156/116/56
Cold: 126/86/26
Lightning: 190/150/90
Poison: 126/86/26

FR/W: 45
FHR: 30 (6 frames)
IAS: 85 (6/6/6/6/10 frames Zeal; 10 frames Berserk)

Skills:

Sacrifice, Blessed Aim, Fanaticism, Resist Lightning: 20 (23)
Redemption, Charge, Prayer, Defiance, Vigor, Cleansing, Smite, Might, Concentration: 1 (4)
Zeal, Berserk: 0 (4)

6 Saved skill points. Blessed Aim and Resist Lightning were for the passive bonuses. Rest should be obvious choices.

Zeal damage, counting Fana and Might: 1558-9203
Berserk damage, counting Fana and Might: 1516-8953

Gear:

Code:
Shion's Passion
Thunder Maul
DolOrtEldLem
Two Hand Damage: 94 - 513
Durability: 56 of 60
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 253
Fingerprint: 0x25124bad
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+25% Increased Attack Speed
185% Enhanced Damage
74% Bonus to Attack Rating
+225% Damage to Undead
+50 to Attack Rating against Undead
Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
+1 to Zeal
+1 to Berserk
Hit Blinds Target +10
Hit Causes Monster to Flee 25%
75% Extra Gold from Monsters
Level 3 Heart of Wolverine (12/12 Charges)
4 Sockets (4 used)

bassano's Crown of Ages
Corona
Defense: 395
Durability: 26 of 50
Required Level: 82
Required Strength: 174
Fingerprint: 0xbd7d4a0f
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Indestructible
+1 to All Skills
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
+26 to Maximum Damage
+50% Enhanced Defense
+146 Defense
All Resistances +22
Damage Reduced by 13%
2 Sockets (2 used)
Socketed: Vermilion Jewel of Fervor
Socketed: Vermilion Jewel of Fervor

Vermilion Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 50
Fingerprint: 0x439ebc42
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
+13 to Maximum Damage

Vermilion Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 50
Fingerprint: 0xdeb0b6b1
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
+13 to Maximum Damage

Highlord's Wrath
Amulet
Required Level: 65
Fingerprint: 0x985e18e0
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to All Skills
+20% Increased Attack Speed
Adds 1 - 30 Lightning Damage
31% Deadly Strike (Based on Character Level)
Lightning Resist +35%
Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 15

Fortitude
Archon Plate
ElSolDolLo
Defense: 1572
Durability: 57 of 60
Required Level: 63
Required Strength: 103
Fingerprint: 0x41bc1e52
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
20% Chance to cast level 15 Chilling Armor when struck
+25% Faster Cast Rate
300% Enhanced Damage
+200% Enhanced Defense
+15 Defense
+94 to Life (Based on Character Level)
Replenish Life +7
+5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
All Resistances +25
Damage Reduced by 7
12% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
+1 to Light Radius
4 Sockets (4 used)

Raven Frost
Ring
Required Level: 45
Fingerprint: 0x7672ccb4
Item Level: 60
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+249 to Attack Rating
Adds 15 - 45 Cold Damage Over 4 Secs (100 Frames)
+20 to Dexterity
+40 to Mana
Cold Absorb 20%
Cannot Be Frozen

Doom Touch
Ring
Required Level: 66
Fingerprint: 0x301ff760
Item Level: 97
Version: Expansion 1.10+
8% Chance to cast level 5 Chain Lightning on attack
+95 to Attack Rating
5% Mana stolen per hit
+20 to Strength
Lightning Resist +29%
6% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Nosferatu's Coil
Vampirefang Belt
Defense: 58
Durability: 14 of 14
Required Level: 51
Required Strength: 50
Fingerprint: 0xb720e068
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10% Increased Attack Speed
7% Life stolen per hit
Slows Target by 10%
+15 to Strength
+2 to Mana after each Kill
-3 to Light Radius

Gore Rider
War Boots
Defense: 153
Durability: 33 of 34
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 94
Fingerprint: 0xf3d11272
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+30% Faster Run/Walk
15% Chance of Crushing Blow
15% Deadly Strike
10% Chance of Open Wounds
+185% Enhanced Defense
+20 Maximum Stamina
Requirements -25%
+10 Maximum Durability

Dracul's Grasp
Vampirebone Gloves
Defense: 143
Durability: 13 of 14
Required Level: 76
Required Strength: 50
Fingerprint: 0x6d371647
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
5% Chance to cast level 10 Life Tap on striking
10% Life stolen per hit
25% Chance of Open Wounds
+117% Enhanced Defense
+12 to Strength
+9 Life after each Kill

Call to Arms
Superior Flail
AmnRalMalIstOhm
One Hand Damage: 3 - 85
Durability: 30 of 30
Required Level: 57
Required Strength: 41
Required Dexterity: 35
Fingerprint: 0x5a8e2440
GUID: 0xe9054427 0x98f19e0b 0x0
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion
+2 to All Skills
+40% Increased Attack Speed
258% Enhanced Damage
+1 to Attack Rating
+150% Damage to Undead
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
7% Life stolen per hit
Prevent Monster Heal
+11 to Battle Cry
+15 to Battle Orders
+6 to Battle Command
Replenish Life +12
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
5 Sockets (5 used)

Spirit
Monarch
TalThulOrtAmn
Defense: 147
Chance to Block: 0
Durability: 86 of 86
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 156
Fingerprint: 0x9f0912fc
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+30% Faster Cast Rate
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
+250 Defense vs. Missile
+22 to Vitality
+98 to Mana
Cold Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +35%
Poison Resist +35%
+5 Magic Absorb
Attacker Takes Damage of 14
4 Sockets (4 used)
Charms:

Code:
Fine Small Charm of Inertia
Small Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0x44cbb0a6
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+3% Faster Run/Walk
+2 to Maximum Damage
+19 to Attack Rating

Fine Small Charm of Inertia
Small Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0xce13a645
Item Level: 64
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+3% Faster Run/Walk
+2 to Maximum Damage
+18 to Attack Rating

Shimmering Small Charm of Inertia
Small Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0xd321b4a2
Item Level: 62
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+3% Faster Run/Walk
All Resistances +5

Shimmering Small Charm of Inertia
Small Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0x35a4cae7
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+3% Faster Run/Walk
All Resistances +4

Shimmering Small Charm of Inertia
Small Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0x41688368
Item Level: 74
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+3% Faster Run/Walk
All Resistances +3

Steel Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 49
Fingerprint: 0x4b9eb3b9
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+32 to Attack Rating
+17 to Life

Fine Small Charm of Strength
Small Charm
Required Level: 21
Fingerprint: 0x69216ba8
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Maximum Damage
+18 to Attack Rating
+2 to Strength

Shimmering Grand Charm of Life
Grand Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0xc4210775
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+16 to Life
All Resistances +14

Steel Grand Charm of Vita
Grand Charm
Required Level: 69
Fingerprint: 0x4c5c68db
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+130 to Attack Rating
+40 to Life

Shimmering Small Charm of Life
Small Charm
Required Level: 25
Fingerprint: 0x7bf2f81b
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+5 to Life
All Resistances +4

Shimmering Small Charm of Incineration
Small Charm
Required Level: 37
Fingerprint: 0x56281d48
Item Level: 82
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Adds 6 - 10 Fire Damage
All Resistances +4

Steel Grand Charm of Sustenance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 53
Fingerprint: 0xa1a1be8c
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+124 to Attack Rating
+34 to Life

Steel Small Charm of Life
Small Charm
Required Level: 49
Fingerprint: 0x41ecf12f
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+36 to Attack Rating
+5 to Life

Sharp Grand Charm of Sustenance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 23
Fingerprint: 0xfd50aaa3
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10 to Maximum Damage
+68 to Attack Rating
+25 to Life

Ruby Grand Charm of Strength
Grand Charm
Required Level: 22
Fingerprint: 0x16b1099c
Item Level: 86
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+6 to Strength
Fire Resist +30%

Steel Small Charm of Vita
Small Charm
Required Level: 49
Fingerprint: 0x9e37a324
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+29 to Attack Rating
+17 to Life

Shimmering Grand Charm
Grand Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0x5aab5607
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
All Resistances +15
Vikhyat, Might merc

Code:
Duriel's Shell
Cuirass
Defense: 709
Durability: 150 of 150
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 65
Fingerprint: 0x80c2b5dd
Item Level: 75
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
+198% Enhanced Defense
+105 Defense (Based on Character Level)
+15 to Strength
+84 to Life (Based on Character Level)
Cold Resist +30%
All Resistances +20
Cannot Be Frozen
+100 Maximum Durability
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Jewel of Fervor

Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0xdeb1dcaf
Item Level: 58
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed


Guillaume's Face
Winged Helm
Defense: 217
Durability: 40 of 40
Required Level: 34
Required Strength: 115
Fingerprint: 0xecb07227
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
35% Chance of Crushing Blow
15% Deadly Strike
+120% Enhanced Defense
+15 to Strength
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Jewel of Fervor


Jewel of Fervor
Jewel
Required Level: 31
Fingerprint: 0xf215fd57
Item Level: 62
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15% Increased Attack Speed


The Reaper's Toll
Thresher
Two Hand Damage: 52 - 614
Durability: 33 of 33
Required Level: 75
Required Strength: 107
Required Dexterity: 81
Fingerprint: 0x8447276
Item Level: 87
Version: Expansion 1.10+
33% Chance to cast level 1 Decrepify on striking
191% Enhanced Damage
Ignore Target's Defense
Adds 4 - 44 Cold Damage Over 1 Secs (18 Frames)
18% Life stolen per hit
33% Deadly Strike
Requirements -25%
Ethereal
1 Sockets (1 used)
Socketed: Amn Rune
Q&A

With the overview out of the way, I'll be taking carefully constructed questions about the build.

-Q: Why would you even make this char?
A: L_E says all that needs to be said about that near the middle of this post.

-Q: Why are your resistances so crappy?
A: Because I have 2k life.

-Q: Then why do you have so many resistance charms?
A: Cause even with 2k life, I'm a pansy.

-Q: Thoughts on Iron Maiden and Physical Immunes?
A: The first is an awesome band, the second a highly annoying monster mod; both made this guy go Berserk.

-Q: But wasn't the CtC Terror a big problem, what with monsters running away?
A: Dead critters turn no tail.

-Q: Would you suggest this build to others?
A: Absolutely, as long as they go with a big weapon that does enough damage to not have problems with monsters running away all the time. This would be completely viable without the CtA if you play intelligently; it just gave me the third skill point I needed for the extra swing from Zeal. It also let me play as recklessly as I wanted ... which was really, really, really reckless. Really.

-Q: Any deaths from that recklessness?
A: Five, maybe six. Three of those to IM before I had the Passion. Others from being slow on my potion finger while not being able to leech. Being able to drink a pot while attacking is one of the few things I prefer compared to Whirlwind.

-Q: Obviously you got to 90 light res to counter gloams, so since you went to such lengths would I be right in guessing that no gloams spawned?
A: Actually, they did spawn in the throne, so I took the chance to just stand around in gloam fire for awhile. Each bolt took down about 20 life. I laughed. Then they died.

-Q: What kind of twinking gear did you use?
A:
Normal:
Envy setup -> partial Sigon's -> 1.09 RC + Iratha's + Twitchthroe + Treads's. Put a Strength War Scepter with +2 Zeal and a Spirit Crown Shield on switch at 25. Killed Baal at 37 then swapped in a +3 Zeal Honor War Scepter, Mahim-Oak Curio, Fervored Stealskull, Bloodfist, SoE, and IK boots. Leveled to 50, switching in Duress, Lava Gout, Ravenfrost and Gore Riders, then moved on to Nightmare.

Nightmare:

Brought in the beta CtA at 57. Hit 65 in the Arreat Plateau and in came the Passion, Highlord's and the Fortitude. Ran Baal until 76, to get the merc to 75 for Reaper's.

Hell:

Leveled to 82 in the Pits, then swapped in the CoA, Nosferatu's and Dracul's.

-Q: Did he find anything along the way?
A:
-NM Forge: Lem
-Hell Forge: Lem
-Death's Hand in Normal Barracks
-plain Fungal skiller in NM Flayer Dungeon
-38%MF Chancies from NM Council
-ethereal Spellsteel
-+3 ES Staff
-+2 FO, +2 ES Staff
-Leviathan, in the Pits

-Q: So what's next in your D2 plans?
A: Well, I'll probably get to work on my Certain Death Tournament char. Past that, I have a very vague idea for an Assassin. That'll leave me with just an Amazon left to make, though I have to admit I'm pretty clueless with what to do there. And, of course, I have that incredible Death's Fathom I paid through the nose for (which I still think I got for cheap) but I already have a plan or twelve for that...

-Q: Anyone you'd like to thank?
A: Of course. I'd like to thank Nagisafurukawa for the Passion and several charms, Paradigmshift for the Scepter I made Honor in, Pyrohemia (and Ray Patean, who owned it originally ) for the CtA, Gahzban for the Lo in the Fort, sirpoopsalot for the eth Reaper's and bassano for the CoA.

-Q: One last question, if you had to name this type of build, what would you call it?
A: Hmm, I dunno. Maybe a Zealazerkadin? Or a maareekadin? Hmm ... Yeah, a maareekadin.

Thanks for your time. May your good luck be so zealous it makes others jealous.
 

Liquid_Evil

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

Ooooh, I get a passing mention and you've supplied a few pretty gg one-liners. Kudos on the nice char and slick gear (I love that Ravenfrost). You've definitely got a lot of mileage out of that maul; maybe a "Passion" Thundermaul Sept after you break in your new Fathom? Maybe not. :p Anyway, before I forget: Masterfully done hero!
 

wakiki

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

Congrats on the Pat, maar. Loved the Q&A! :D
 

NagisaFurukawa

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

Perhaps I should've mentioned this earlier, but neesama wants ¥5000 for every swing of her maul. :whistling:

Seriously though (or not), another suitably named stylin' character, despite being a paladin (!). Broken items all around, blinding me from reading what was probably [not] the usual quality writeup. Any problems hitting stuff with such low AR? Damage goes through the roof, so you probably didn't notice, but I do enjoy nagging. :p. *leaves door open*

Good luck in the tournament by the way. I'm sure you'll go [not as] far [as I will]. :).

EDIT: Whoa there. The new (old) "blog it!" feature aside, was the similar threads thing at the very bottom always there?
 

purplelocust

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

Nicely done! That is quite an interesting use of a strong weapon!

Honor in a +3 Zeal scepter
That is a treat! I had a beloved +3 Zeal scepter on b.net which was used for twinking, often for fledgling hammerdins. And I've still got my eyes out for variations along the way, including other potentially useful staffmods.
 

Ragnarod

DiabloII.Net Pal
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

Well done Maareek, I've always liked paladins with big 2h weapons but I've seen very few of them not using Charge, very original :)

EDIT: Whoa there. The new (old) "blog it!" feature aside, was the similar threads thing at the very bottom always there?
I think that's new, first time I notice it too! Could be useful, we'll see :scratchchin:



 

sirpoopsalot

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

-Q: Thoughts on Iron Maiden and Physical Immunes?
A: The first is an awesome band, the second a highly annoying monster mod; both made this guy go Berserk.
If you haven't ever tried Sanctuary yet, it's worth a point IMO. So many PI's are undead that I think a physical-zealot without a backup element is actually very viable (of course, not that having a backup element isn't a problem with Zealalittle).

Congrats on a sexy build.



 

Thomh

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

That is one sexy paladin......well, as sexy as a paladin can be considering they are pretty much the Rick Astley of D2.

Your gear is very nice, of course, but I absolutely hate the AR. Were you able to reliably leech with that?
 

GibItam

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

Call to Arms
Superior Flail
AmnRalMalIstOhm
One Hand Damage: 3 - 85
Durability: 30 of 30
Required Level: 57
Required Strength: 41
Required Dexterity: 35
Fingerprint: 0x5a8e2440
GUID: 0xe9054427 0x98f19e0b 0x0
Item Level: 90
Version: Expansion
+2 to All Skills
+40% Increased Attack Speed
258% Enhanced Damage
+1 to Attack Rating
+150% Damage to Undead
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
7% Life stolen per hit
Prevent Monster Heal
+11 to Battle Cry
+15 to Battle Orders
+6 to Battle Command
Replenish Life +12
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
5 Sockets (5 used)

I do not understand this from your items list, you have a cta that has so many + skills? even if this is with + skills from other items added it still does not make sense as BC is only at +6 and Bo is at +16. Meaning you have at least +10 to skills on a perfect BO CTA nevertheles only +5 to BC? Is this just a wrong readout or what?
 

Liquid_Evil

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

I always knew maareek was a h4x0r!!111

That's a beta version of the item; in a few instances, beta items are better than their final version counterparts. You can usually tell beta items by their ridiculously lengthy fingerprints starting with "GUID." Now maybe offer up some congrats to maareek for derailin' his thread?
 

omgwtfbbqpwned

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

^ Good eye, Gib. A-ha! I knew you were up to no good mareek! *rapidly reports multiple times*

Grats on the unique pat though. maareekadin sounds a bit lame. How about omgadin? :>

*cringes at AR* Suprisingly higher than my post count. Give me a month or two. At a second glance, I have more posts than your Zeal has AR. Tee hee.
 

maareek

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Patriarch Zealalittle, 2 Handed Zealot with No Points in Zeal

Thanks for the comments, all.

@Thomh: Was able to leech with no problems. The only problems I had with hitting things were when I first started running the Pits (was in the high 70's) and against Baal. The only times I had to drink potions were: 1, against unleechables before Life Tap went off; 2, when I was charging through places like the Flayer Dungeon and Tal's Rasha's Tomb; 3, critters that did ridiculous amounts of elemental damage (FE/LE/CE monsters). If the weapon didn't do so much damage the AR would probably be a problem, but even a 50% CtH (and I had significantly better than that) doesn't cause much problem when one hit means a dead baddie.

And I agree about Paladins being uncool. This is the third I've started, but the only one I've finished.

@poops: I agree with your thoughts about Sanctuary, but I didn't like the thought of being in the middle of undead PI's zealing away with no shield and low resists considering many of them have other ugly mods. Plus I lose a lot of things by not using Fana so just using Berserk seemed like the best plan.

@purplelocust: Yeah, I was very thankful to Paradigmshift when he traded me that base scepter. I had no problems whatsoever getting through the game up to level 65 with the Honor Scepter and I have no doubts I could have finished the game just fine using it and a Spirit (I don't have a HoZ). If I decide to make another paladin, the scepter will probably see more use. Here's the readout, just for completeness:

Code:
Honor
War Scepter
'AmnElIthTirSol'
One-Hand Damage: 35 to 53
Durability: 70 of 70
Required Strength: 55
Required Level: 27
Mace Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 79
Fingerprint: 0xac149868
+10 to Strength
+160% Enhanced Damage
+250 to Attack Rating
+9 to Minimum Damage
+9 to Maximum Damage
7% Life stolen per hit
Replenish Life +10
+1 to Light Radius
+3 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
+3 to Zeal (Paladin Only)
+1 to Conversion (Paladin Only)
150% Damage to Undead
+1 to All Skill Levels
+2 to Mana After Each Kill
25% Deadly Strike
Socketed (5: 5 used)

@Nagisa: You changed your avatar. My world is reeling. Who are you? Who am I? Why is Liq still using that ugly rag wearing wino as an avatar?

I'm sure you'll outperform me in the tournament, no matter how many characters you have to make to do it. ;p The similar threads thing at the bottom freaked me out at first, too.

@wakiki: Always good to see you around.

@L_E: A Passion Thundermaul sept? Yeah...no. It *might* see some more use, but considering I'll have to pay for future swings (no retroactive billing, Nagisa!), probably not.

Edit @ GibItam: As Liq pointed out, it's a beta (meaning the 1.10 beta) CtA, which had different stats than later versions. This particular one has a perfect roll on the Battle Orders, though I'm not sure what the range is for the other two skills. It was originally made by Ray Patean (I think, at least; I know he was the one who traded it to Pyrohemia as part of a deal for a Sur) and ended up in my hands after the trading away of a considerable amount of wealth.

Edit @ omg: Yeah, that mareek guys is a no good loser. Guess it just goes to show what a difference an extra "a" makes. ;) And I thought an omgadin was an invincible pala, no?
 
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