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Patriarch Bryan - Singer

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  1. necrolemming

    necrolemming Diabloii.Net Member

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    Going into this build, my impressions of War Cry were that
    • it does poor damage
    • it costs a ton of mana
    • the merc was going to do the bulk of killing
    While I was right, it turned out better than I had expected.

    LCS

    Stats
    everything in vitality

    Skills
    20/41 War Cry
    20/41 Battle Cry
    20/41 Taunt
    20/41 Howl
    1/22 Battle Command
    1/22 Battle Orders
    1/22 Find Item
    1/15 Natural Resistance
    1/15 Increased Speed
    4 unspent

    Equipment
    Weapon: Spirit Crystal Sword x2
    Armor: Enigma
    Helm: Harlequin Crest + Perfect Topaz
    Gloves: Trang'Oul's Claws
    Belt: Arachnid Mesh
    Boots: Aldur's Advance
    Amulet: Mara's Kaleidoscope
    Rings: Stone of Jordan x2
    Charms: 7x Sounding GC, Gheed's Fortune, 10x Serpent's SC

    Merc (A2 Might)
    Weapon: Insight 1.07 eth Great Poleaxe / eth Reaper's Toll + Shael
    Armor: Fortitude
    Helm: Vampire Gaze / Guillaume's Face + IAS jewel

    Code:
    Spirit
    Crystal Sword
    TalThulOrtAmn
    One Hand Damage: 5 - 15
    Durability: 20 of 20
    Required Level: 25
    Required Strength: 43
    Fingerprint: 0x9e8d5b93
    Item Level: 61
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to All Skills
    +35% Faster Cast Rate
    +55% Faster Hit Recovery
    Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
    Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
    Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
    7% Life stolen per hit
    +250 Defense vs. Missile
    +22 to Vitality
    +106 to Mana
    +7 Magic Absorb
    4 Sockets (4 used)
    Socketed: Tal Rune
    Socketed: Thul Rune
    Socketed: Ort Rune
    Socketed: Amn Rune
    
    Spirit
    Crystal Sword
    TalThulOrtAmn
    One Hand Damage: 5 - 15
    Durability: 19 of 20
    Required Level: 25
    Required Strength: 43
    Fingerprint: 0x89b0cd3
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to All Skills
    +34% Faster Cast Rate
    +55% Faster Hit Recovery
    Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
    Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
    Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
    7% Life stolen per hit
    +250 Defense vs. Missile
    +22 to Vitality
    +104 to Mana
    +7 Magic Absorb
    4 Sockets (4 used)
    Socketed: Tal Rune
    Socketed: Thul Rune
    Socketed: Ort Rune
    Socketed: Amn Rune
    
    Insight
    Bill
    RalTirTalSol
    Two Hand Damage: 81 - 273
    Durability: 26 of 26
    Required Level: 27
    Required Strength: 85
    Fingerprint: 0x2658be3f
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Level 17 Meditation Aura When Equipped
    +35% Faster Cast Rate
    246% Enhanced Damage
    +9 to Minimum Damage
    219% Bonus to Attack Rating
    Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
    Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
    +3 to Critical Strike
    All Stats +5
    +2 to Mana after each Kill
    23% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
    Ethereal
    4 Sockets (4 used)
    Socketed: Ral Rune
    Socketed: Tir Rune
    Socketed: Tal Rune
    Socketed: Sol Rune
    
    Enigma
    Breast Plate
    JahIthBer
    Defense: 819
    Durability: 39 of 50
    Required Level: 65
    Required Strength: 30
    Fingerprint: 0x86e126e4
    Item Level: 49
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to All Skills
    +45% Faster Run/Walk
    +1 to Teleport
    +752 Defense
    +61 to Strength (Based on Character Level)
    Increase Maximum Life 5%
    Damage Reduced by 8%
    +14 Life after each Kill
    15% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
    82% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items (Based on Character Level)
    3 Sockets (3 used)
    Socketed: Jah Rune
    Socketed: Ith Rune
    Socketed: Ber Rune
    
    Harlequin Crest
    Shako
    Defense: 120
    Durability: 7 of 12
    Required Level: 62
    Required Strength: 50
    Fingerprint: 0x44e754ab
    Item Level: 87
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to All Skills
    All Stats +2
    +123 to Life (Based on Character Level)
    +123 to Mana (Based on Character Level)
    All Resistances +11
    Damage Reduced by 10%
    50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
    1 Sockets (1 used)
    Socketed: Scintillating Jewel
    
    Scintillating Jewel
    Jewel
    Required Level: 26
    Fingerprint: 0xd2ec4a34
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Cold Resist +11%
    Lightning Resist +11%
    Fire Resist +11%
    Poison Resist +11%
    
    Trang-Oul's Claws
    Heavy Bracers
    Defense: 74
    Durability: 12 of 16
    Required Level: 45
    Required Strength: 58
    Fingerprint: 0xfc86e342
    Item Level: 59
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to Curses (Necromancer only)
    +20% Faster Cast Rate
    +25% to Poison Skill Damage
    +30 Defense
    Cold Resist +30%
    
    Arachnid Mesh
    Spiderweb Sash
    Defense: 127
    Durability: 8 of 12
    Required Level: 80
    Required Strength: 50
    Fingerprint: 0x2e184c50
    Item Level: 87
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to All Skills
    +20% Faster Cast Rate
    Slows Target by 10%
    +103% Enhanced Defense
    Increase Maximum Mana 5%
    Level 3 Venom (11/11 Charges)
    
    Aldur's Advance
    Battle Boots
    Defense: 43
    Indestructible
    Required Level: 45
    Required Strength: 95
    Fingerprint: 0xb312949a
    Item Level: 99
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Indestructible
    +40% Faster Run/Walk
    +50 to Life
    +180 Maximum Stamina
    Heal Stamina Plus 32%
    Fire Resist +49%
    10% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
    
    Mara's Kaleidoscope
    Amulet
    Required Level: 67
    Fingerprint: 0xc3fd8c07
    Item Level: 87
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to All Skills
    All Stats +5
    All Resistances +29
    
    The Stone of Jordan
    Ring
    Required Level: 29
    Fingerprint: 0x789d44b5
    GUID: 0xc76df742 0x7a36599a 0x0
    Item Level: 90
    Version: Expansion
    +1 to All Skills
    Adds 1 - 12 Lightning Damage
    +20 to Mana
    Increase Maximum Mana 25%
    
    The Stone of Jordan
    Ring
    Required Level: 29
    Fingerprint: 0x6b051e7a
    Item Level: 87
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to All Skills
    Adds 1 - 12 Lightning Damage
    +20 to Mana
    Increase Maximum Mana 25%

    Code:
    The Reaper's Toll
    Thresher
    Two Hand Damage: 57 - 675
    Durability: 33 of 33
    Required Level: 75
    Required Strength: 107
    Required Dexterity: 81
    Fingerprint: 0x6878e57e
    Item Level: 86
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    33% Chance to cast level 1 Decrepify on striking
    +20% Increased Attack Speed
    220% Enhanced Damage
    Ignore Target's Defense
    Adds 4 - 44 Cold Damage Over 1 Secs (32 Frames)
    11% Life stolen per hit
    33% Deadly Strike
    Requirements -25%
    Ethereal
    1 Sockets (1 used)
    Socketed: Shael Rune
    
    Insight
    Great Poleaxe
    RalTirTalSol
    Two Hand Damage: 272 - 725
    Durability: 28 of 28
    Required Level: 63
    Required Strength: 169
    Required Dexterity: 89
    Fingerprint: 0x4b864e8d
    Item Level: 87
    Version: Expansion
    Level 17 Meditation Aura When Equipped
    +35% Faster Cast Rate
    282% Enhanced Damage
    +9 to Minimum Damage
    191% Bonus to Attack Rating
    Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
    Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
    +6 to Critical Strike
    All Stats +5
    +2 to Mana after each Kill
    23% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
    Ethereal
    4 Sockets (4 used)
    Socketed: Ral Rune
    Socketed: Tir Rune
    Socketed: Tal Rune
    Socketed: Sol Rune
    
    Fortitude
    Dusk Shroud
    ElSolDolLo
    Defense: 1392
    Durability: 19 of 20
    Required Level: 59
    Required Strength: 77
    Fingerprint: 0xc682d66e
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    20% Chance to cast level 15 Chilling Armor when struck
    +25% Faster Cast Rate
    300% Enhanced Damage
    +200% Enhanced Defense
    +15 Defense
    +123 to Life (Based on Character Level)
    Replenish Life +7
    +5% to Maximum Lightning Resist
    All Resistances +28
    Damage Reduced by 7
    12% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
    +1 to Light Radius
    4 Sockets (4 used)
    Socketed: El Rune
    Socketed: Sol Rune
    Socketed: Dol Rune
    Socketed: Lo Rune
    
    Guillaume's Face
    Winged Helm
    Defense: 217
    Durability: 40 of 40
    Required Level: 34
    Required Strength: 115
    Fingerprint: 0xf40da9e0
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +15% Increased Attack Speed
    +30% Faster Hit Recovery
    35% Chance of Crushing Blow
    15% Deadly Strike
    +120% Enhanced Defense
    +15 to Strength
    1 Sockets (1 used)
    Socketed: Jewel of Fervor
    
    Vampire Gaze
    Grim Helm
    Defense: 252
    Durability: 38 of 40
    Required Level: 41
    Required Strength: 58
    Fingerprint: 0x9be1e440
    Item Level: 87
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Adds 6 - 22 Cold Damage Over 4 Secs (100 Frames)
    8% Mana stolen per hit
    8% Life stolen per hit
    +100% Enhanced Defense
    15% Slower Stamina Drain
    Damage Reduced by 18%
    Magic Damage Reduced by 11
    

    Code:
    Gheed's Fortune
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 62
    Fingerprint: 0x9343a447
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    95% Extra Gold from Monsters
    Reduces all Vendor Prices 13%
    40% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
    
    Sounding Grand Charm
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 42
    Fingerprint: 0x87c7710e
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to Warcry Skills (Barbarian Only)
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Sustenance
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0x61791dbb
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +15 to Life
    +15 to Mana
    
    Sounding Grand Charm
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 42
    Fingerprint: 0x5d590cf1
    Item Level: 86
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to Warcry Skills (Barbarian Only)
    
    Sounding Grand Charm of Strength
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 42
    Fingerprint: 0xf7041399
    Item Level: 86
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to Warcry Skills (Barbarian Only)
    +6 to Strength
    
    Sounding Grand Charm
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 42
    Fingerprint: 0xe180a538
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to Warcry Skills (Barbarian Only)
    
    Sounding Grand Charm of Strength
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 42
    Fingerprint: 0xa4dff619
    Item Level: 70
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to Warcry Skills (Barbarian Only)
    +6 to Strength
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Sustenance
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0x957d37ba
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +14 to Life
    +15 to Mana
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Sustenance
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0xd8f38f0
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +12 to Life
    +17 to Mana
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Inertia
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0xd6b344cd
    Item Level: 86
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +3% Faster Run/Walk
    +17 to Mana
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Inertia
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0xb3aa7b89
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +3% Faster Run/Walk
    +17 to Mana
    
    Sounding Grand Charm
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 42
    Fingerprint: 0x3f61f7d0
    Item Level: 80
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to Warcry Skills (Barbarian Only)
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Sustenance
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0x9c89300d
    Item Level: **
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +11 to Life
    +14 to Mana
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Sustenance
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0x4a2be805
    Item Level: 90
    Version: Expansion
    +15 to Life
    +17 to Mana
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Vita
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0x31b72ac2
    Item Level: 93
    Version: Expansion
    +18 to Life
    +13 to Mana
    
    Sounding Grand Charm
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 42
    Fingerprint: 0xe443d963
    Item Level: 76
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to Warcry Skills (Barbarian Only)
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Sustenance
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0x420baafc
    Item Level: **
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +13 to Life
    +14 to Mana
    
    Serpent's Small Charm of Vita
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 40
    Fingerprint: 0xed00b2d9
    Item Level: 99
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +19 to Life
    +15 to Mana

    Planning
    The hope was that War Cry would do functional amounts of damage and not just exist to pin enemies down while the merc did all the killing, so I needed to load up on +skills. Most of the gear was pretty trivial to select, but it took a bit of wrangling to figure out that dual Spirit was probably where I wanted to be - the flat +mana after BO was critical; Heart of the Oak might have provided a tiny bit of extra damage but was something like 500 max mana short and wasn't even close to providing enough regeneration. Wizardspike might have been an option, but I realized too late that I'd have needed to save some stat points for Dexterity for it. The low resistances didn't end up being too big of a deal; 4k+ life pool let me absorb a lot of elemental damage (including otherwise scary situations like conviction LEBs) and drink through it.

    As for the merc, Insight was mandatory for the Meditation aura and Fortitude was mandatory for damage output. This left the helm slot for life leech, and without the inclination to do extra leveling for Andariel's Visage, that left Vampire Gaze. This loadout wouldn't cut it for bosses, though - War Cry being pretty poor against them and having no backup damage option meant that the merc was going to need to wear Guillaume's Face and have a weapon with life steal, hence the Insight on switch - the low max mana with Insight on meant that sustained casting wasn't possible, but it was enough to fill the ball in a few seconds of waiting.

    I wasted a respec when I realized that maxing Battle Orders was probably not the right play with as much +skills as the equipment provided and that I'd need to get all of War Cry's synergies. There was an idea I read of putting 1 point into Berserk and a weapon mastery for an option against PIs, but I didn't feel like blowing a second respec to have enough stat points to swing a Grief or whatever.

    In retrospect, in addition to that, I'd have figured out how many points I could get away with allocating into energy - the returns are pretty poor, but the life total was overkill and slightly higher mana would have been helpful.

    Gameplay
    The basic flow was about what I expected - teleport into packs, War Cry once to stun, apply Battle Cry, and cast War Cry until everything's dead. It was way less boring than I had been afraid it'd end up being, though. Even with players 8 on the whole way through, War Cry was still doing nonnegligible amounts of damage, especially since it could hit large numbers of enemies at a time. The merc was definitely performing the actual function of getting kills, but combat was still pretty active on my part, between repositioning and using Taunt/Howl accordingly and maintaining stun in multiple areas as needed.

    The lack of a way to deal with bosses was definitely a problem, though. It's not like they were especially dangerous; they just took forever to chip down with limited crushing blow and War Cry damage. Hell Ancients took memorably long (something like 10 minutes) because I kept running out of mana without Insight on the merc. There's not much I think that the build could be adjusted to handle that, though - War Cry just isn't going to be very good if the real effect of the spell doesn't work.

    In all, the build was enjoyable, but it'd have been more fun playing below players 8. I imagine playing a Nova sorceress might feel sort of similar, so that'll be a different take down the line.
     
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  2. Kitteh

    Kitteh Diabloii.Net Site Pal

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    A build that I want to make at some point, with your opening statement basically being what puts me off each time :p
     
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    necrolemming Diabloii.Net Member

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    Bryan Singer's the director of The Usual Suspects and the X-Men film series.

    Yeah, it's not exactly the epitome of wit.
     
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    BKC Diabloii.Net Member

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    i am in doubt between respeccing my ww barb to something else. (i like frenzy a lot) i cannot ww on the other hand (hate it) but i am stuck between singer/zerker/frenzy barb. Would you recomend a singer?
     
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    GooberGrape Diabloii.Net Member

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    I have strongly considered running a pure MF version of this build to compete with my Pit zerker. It's one of the very few builds I would consider putting some hard points in energy, since the only thing that can really hurt you is mana burners.
     
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    Cool. Congrats !!
     
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    mir Diabloii.Net Member

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    Well done, and congruts on the pat!

    How much mana you had?


    @BKC I totaly recomend a singer, it's an intresting non-cookie build. I advise reaper toll on merc and full/normal rejuves instead of regular potions.
     
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    necrolemming Diabloii.Net Member

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    It was certainly interesting to try one out, but I don't know if I'd commit a respec to it. I don't think it's very strong for general purpose play.

    Gripphon had a very informative writeup about his MF singer for running the Pit, but that's hyperoptimized for a specific purpose.
     
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    Crazy Runner Guy Diabloii.Net Member

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    Either is great for pit running, and the Pit Zerker guide out there is fantastic, too. Both are very specific builds for a very specific location and task, but when you find what works, you exploit every single thing you can about it. There is a reason LF zons get pushed to 99, e.g. and don't run Pit where as Singers run LK and Pits and don't get pushed toward 99.

    I have also run LK with a 200% FCR singer, which has worked wonders for me. More fun than a sorc for me. YMMV.
     

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