Paladins and OK's *sigh* My 1 pt smiter is currently 83. I anticipate taking him at least another 10 levels or so. He has maxed the recommended skills (zeal, sacrifice, fanaticism and holy shield) and currently has six saved points - with the potential for at least another 10 points. So will have the possibility of approximately up to 16 skill points to a chosen skill. He is very safe with the obvious exception of OKs. My question is how best to tackle them. I am considering Lawbringer in a sceptre class weapon with +Salvation skills/Redemption and using his additional points in vengeance. Using that on switch in CS and WSK when I hit Knights. What do you guys/gals think? Am I correct in thinking that I could put Lawbringer in a very low powered weapon and the magic damage would be enough to take out OK's (with or without vengeance) relatively quickly? I use a lot of crushing blow; does Iron Maiden reflect that back at me? I use RWM/RRM but am not wealthy enough to do Grief . Nords is the current 'standard weapon'. Thank you for your considered input. Edit: I *SUCK* and let me emphasise that *SUCK* at bows. Monsters run *in* to my path for safety when I use a bow. Edit2: Should have also said HoZ, Smoke, Nords, crafted +2 off aura ammy, Gores, Dracs, Natures Peace and Ravenfrost. Six saved points now; up to 16 at level 93 (which is achievable).