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over 21k with 18 shards off of Frozen Orb?

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by Variable_Angel, Mar 30, 2004.

  1. Variable_Angel

    Variable_Angel IncGamers Member

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    over 21k with 18 shards off of Frozen Orb?

    To Quote Singollo~
    So basically that would be
    18 * D
    where 18 is the number of shards hitting the target if aimed nearly perfectly and D is the listed damage on the 'c' or 'a' screen

    So now that means get a sorc with over 1000 and you get 18k easily.
    But how high can the damage of the sorc Frozen Orb truly get?
    (and i'm talking like insanely like people with 20 cold facets. . .)


    Few enter spaces to let that sink in. Now lets get into the grimy bits!

    okay our goals
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    +15 to all skills
    +15 to Frozen Orb
    < 4 cold facets
    < 8 plus cold skills GC
    full synergies
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    bwah- ha- ha
    i'm insane
    and yes i realize i can only achieve like 4 of those

    and i love it! (this is what happens when your idiotic brother loads all these hacks on your computer and your CD key is put on the do not allow internet acess group. . .

    oh well. . .

    So we Max Orb and Ice Bolt our information now looks like:
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    Frozen Orb (with +15 skills)
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    Mana Cost
    -----49

    Minimum Damage
    -----990
    Maximum Damage
    -----1030
    Average Damage
    -----1010

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    Frozen Orb
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    Quite Interesting might i suggest! (not really but i'm trying to be perky)
    Okay!
    Next we use Cold Facets and Cold Mastery to bring down enemy resistance to -199%

    So. . .
    One Cold Facet is
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    Cold Facet
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    Adds 24-38 Cold Damage Over 0 Seconds
    -(3-5)% To Enemy Cold Resistances
    +(3-5) To Cold Skill Damage
    100% Chance To Cast Level 37 Blizzard When You Die

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    Cold Facet
    -----------

    according to http://www.d2data.net/item/uniq_jewel.html

    So if we had a Jewelers Archon Plate of Memory (whoo hoo 74 mana!)
    and we socketed it with 4 perfect cold facets we'd end up with:

    Adds 152 Cold Damage Over 0 Seconds (yeah, what's up with the 0?)
    -20% to Enemy Cold Resistances
    +20 to Cold Skill Damage (if memory serves right i believe that's percent)
    400% (?!?!) Chance to Cast Level 37 Blizzard When You Die (hmmm. . . 4 Blizzards? another question for later on)

    So we've brought the 199% to 179 rest is to have cold mastery to do the work (which i believe to be at level 35 + any CS|GC we have left over)

    ah, i'll post some more later when i have the chance, post your ideas

    -Roux
     
  2. Thrugg

    Thrugg IncGamers Member

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    The 0 seconds on the facets refers to how long the target is frozen for after being hit. It isn't exactly 0 as it happens, it is 3 frames (0.12 seconds), which is being rounded down. They stack, so if you had 8 of them you would get almost a full second of freezing.
     
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    negative resists are capped at -100%

    Also with the Chance to Cast on the facets. Some say you'll get the 4 blizzards others say you'll get the 400% chance to cast 1 blizzard. I have a theory that the chance to cast is rolled per Item. So if you have 3 of the same facets on different items: helm, armor, and weapon. Then you'll get three. On the other hand if you have it on a single item you'll get a 300% chance to get one. I'm too poor to test though :scratch:

    A lot of people report seeing up to 3 of a particular spell so a few people think that it is capped in some way.
     
  4. Christopher Sin

    Christopher Sin IncGamers Member

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    I remember testing something like this in the beta. If my memory serves me right, it's the % chance to cast only one Blizzard.
     
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    Ryshenron IncGamers Member

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    adds xx cold dmg isnt applied to elemental attacks..only physical
     
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    Huh? Could i get a link showing where it only applies to physical attacks? I always thought they worked for everything (except the -res on minions such as traps).
     
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    Skills: Max FO, Ice Bolt, Cold Mastery. That's 64 skill points. Rest is your choice
    Now, use:
    Perfect Death's Fathom with 5/5 Facet (+35%), +3 skills
    Perfect Nighting's Veil with 5/5 Facet (+20%), +2 skills
    Enigma/CoH/Valor, +2 skills (Valor is socktable with 5/5 facet)
    Amulet, +3 skills
    Dual SoJs, +2 skills
    Arachnid Mesh, +1 skill
    10 Cold Charms
    1 Annihilus
    And ANY shield you want. Most likely SS with Facet/Um rune. You can use your 4 socekt shield with Facets as well, to boost it even mroe.

    That would be +11 to all skills, +13 to cold skills: Cold Damage: 863-900.
    Now we add the extra damage, +55% (only from Fathom and Nightwing)... 1337 - 1395
    On top of that, your cold mastery will be -235%, adding the facets will give it -245%, which I don't think any monster in the game has over 95% Cold Resistance (Cold Immune are excluded obviously)
     
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    sangfagel IncGamers Member

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    If we are talking about charms - of course not. They add cold dmg to physical.
    If we are talking about facets - they affect elemental dmg.
     
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    Only the +% skill dmg, the +cold dmg isn't added to elemental attacks.
     
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    sangfagel IncGamers Member

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    It´s exactly what I meant
     
  11. Variable_Angel

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    well, i guess you guys kinda did my work. . .


    woot! i think i'ma gonna actually try to do this. . .

    PS- what would happen if we had more annihilus?
    (i don't really know the stats of it)

    -Roux
     
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    You can carry only one annihilus at a time.
     
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    i see, that would make more sense

    Anyone know how to get the anakin charm?

    I know you have to kill Da Big Dog, but how do you find him?

    Any tips on how to find DBD?
     
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    What's wrong with lidless for the extra skill? :scratch:
     
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    Or Sigon or Visceratuant for skill?
     
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    I made a hacked sorc on single player with level 99 frozen orb and it only did ~1.5k damage. I don't know why... just thought I'd let you know.
     
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    errrrrrrrrrrr............ only?!

    well maybe you didnt get the concenpt
    that 1.5k is prolly on your character screen, if so
    you multiply that with 18 and get

    27k damage if you hit a monster with 18 shards (at perfect angle)

    the number on your character screen is for every shard and i believe that orb shoots out 40ish of em 18 of which can, potentially, hit the opponent
     
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    I could guarentee that 20% extra cold damage is way more than +1 skill.
     
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    IIRC, ConnerMacleod had a HCL sorc on east that did 1100+ orb dmg before she died. You can probably search the HC forum for his gear.
     

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