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OT: Building a Zod from the ground up

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by sirpoopsalot, Jun 16, 2005.

  1. sirpoopsalot

    sirpoopsalot IncGamers Member

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    OT: Building a Zod from the ground up

    I had a brain fart last night and wanted to see what the concensus of the SPF was. My random thought was: "I wonder how long it would take to cube a Zod from El's if everyone at the SPF donated those they found. Then we could have another Zod giveaway tourney."

    I haven't done the math (too lazy), and suspect the time required would still be unfeasible, yet that thought is still lingering like yesterdays burrito. If Zod's too much though, maybe we could cube up to something useful, like an Ist, - eventually - and throw that in some tourney or giveaway.

    However, there's no way I want everyone sending me El's all day long. Someone else would have to claim this baby. (or to stay with the theme - I might let out the stinker, but that don't mean I'm claiming it).

    Your thoughts?
     
  2. Sleepless

    Sleepless IncGamers Member

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    It would take a few thousands years to cube the Els and few billion flawless/chippies to cube a zod.
     
  3. Dark Bushido

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    The simple answer is: It's not worth it!
     
  4. SeDnA

    SeDnA IncGamers Member

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    You need...
    3486784401 x 4096 Els. Meh my calculator gets an error when I try to calculate this and Im lazy... to calculate it using pen+paper.
     
  5. Kool69

    Kool69 IncGamers Member

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    this has been talked about before and I can't remember if it was like 300,000 el's or if it was 300,000,000 els... wait until RTB or FB come around, im sure one of them remember. Truthfully I wasn't paying much attention because I didn't have d2 installed to play it.

    *Edit* SeDnA's got it, it is 14,281,868,906,496 well... I was off...

    *Edit2* Oh and that would mean it would take exactly 4,760,622,968,832 uses of the cube to get the cube into eld's... Holy Mother of Crap... It would take as long to cube all those el's as it would to actually find a zod on your own.

    Eld - 4,760,622,968,832
    Tir - 1,586,874,322,944
    Nef - 528,958,107,648
    Eth - 176,319,369,216
    Ith - 5,877,312,072
    Tal - 19,591,041,024
    Ral - 6,530,347,008
    Ort - 2,176,782,336
    Thul - 725,594,112 Chipped Topaz: 241,864,704
    Amn - 241,864,704 Chipped Amethyst: 241,864,704
    Sol - 80,621,568 Chipped Sapphire: 26,873,856
    Shael - 26,873,856 Chipped Ruby: 8,957,952
    Dol - 8,957,952 Chipped Emerald: 2,985,984
    Hel - 2,985,984 Chipped Diamond: 995,328
    Io - 995,328 Flawed Topaz: 331,776
    Lum - 331,776 Flawed Amethyst: 110,592
    Ko - 110,592 Flawed Sapphire: 36,864
    Fal - 36,864 Flawed Ruby: 12,288
    Lem - 12,288 Flawed Emerald: 4,096
    Pul - 4,096 Flawed Diamond: 2,048
    Um - 2,048 Normal Topaz: 1,024
    Mal - 1,024 Normal Amethyst:
    Ist - 512 Normal Sapphire: 512
    Gul - 256 Normal Ruby: 128
    Vex - 128 Normal Emerald: 64
    Ohm - 64 Normal Diamond: 32
    Lo - 32 Flawless Topaz: 16
    Sur - 16 Flawless Amethyst: 8
    Ber - 8 Flawless Sapphire: 4
    Jah - 4 Flawless Ruby: 2
    Cham - 2 Flawless Emerald: 1
    Zod - 1

    Total uses of cube: 7,088,280,656,935
     
  6. krzyhobo

    krzyhobo IncGamers Member

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    I think the tournament idea is still a good one - it wouldn't have to consist of just el runes. I'm sure there are people willing to donate a bunch of the less rare runes.
     
  7. sirpoopsalot

    sirpoopsalot IncGamers Member

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    Every time I go near the countess she starts throwing them at me like she's trying to take out my eye, so I figure why not get the old bi*** back. Besides, what else can you do with them?

    I realize this is a long term (i.e multi-year) commitment, but how many of us have been playing this game for years (or original NES, Playstation, etc. games for most of our lives for that matter)?

    ... Not that I care that much. I can probably live happily without having this grow from a brain fart to a brain turd.


    Edit: And I know & respect the SPF rules, but perhaps for such an inane cause an exception on allowing a cubing script would be permissible.
     
  8. crazy_bear

    crazy_bear IncGamers Member

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    Actually way longer... imagine you use the cube once every second (including moving runes/gems around) continuously for as long as it took to make the zod.
    at 3600 second per hour, 24 hours per day 365.25 days per year it would still take you almost 700,000 years to make the zod, and that's without even collecting all those els, not to mention the 241,864,704 chipped topazes, 80,621,568 chipped amethysts, 26,873,856 chipped sapphires etcetera etcetera

    edit: replying to using higher runes: if you started at Io instead of el it would still take 995,328 Io's, even if you start at a relatively high rune, say Um, it still takes 2048 Um runes, plus 2047 varied gems
     
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    Well, 8 Bers > 4 Jahs > 2 Chams > 1 Zod
    and so on. If you cube, unless you're doing it for style (i.e. to show off :lol: ), you should probably stop cubing at Ohm. That saves you a lot of good runes and gems that would otherwise all be used to create a fraction of that elusive Zod.
     
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    Bam, all your cubing needs for one zod located up about 5 posts
     
  11. sirpoopsalot

    sirpoopsalot IncGamers Member

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    ... um, i hate to be a stickler for details, but the same number appears in:

    1. Number of chipped Topaz required
    2. Number of Amn runes
    3. Number of chipped Amethyst

    ... so i image you could be off by a couple of billion, lol.
     
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    Ah oh well, no ones ever going to actually make a Zod from all those el's unless they somehow turned it into a family tradition..... but oh well, im not doing all that math over again
     
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    Basically, you're probably going to take a naked punching sorceress with no skill or stat points assigned to Guardian faster than you'll cube a Zod from Els. And with slightly less boredom too. ;)
     
  14. sirpoopsalot

    sirpoopsalot IncGamers Member

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    that's just what i'm proposing - and isn't the SPF one big family. You're not even allowed to kick me out unless you can talk mom or dad into it (err... AE or Krem... :D ).

    Nevetheless, I guess the sheer number prove it's not really possible. Or, if you prefer one more analogy: the wind has caught this one and blew it away.
     
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    Didn't someone point out that you could lvl to 99 in the normal blood moor faster than you could cube El's into a Zod rune?
     
  16. mad.as.a.meataxe

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    The mods get quite twitchy when you start talking about anything involving runes so you'd definitely need to talk to them first. I was all for a Rune-Find Olympics with a non-rune prize but they weren't very keen on the idea so it got flagged. I suspect this would fall into the same boat. Best of luck though!

    MAAM
     
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    Probably. Assuming that EXP gained per monster drops to 1, which I think it would, it'd only take a couple billion monsters (no idea how much EXP to get to 99, so don't take my word for it) to get to 99, instead of a few trillion El runes for a Zod :D
     
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    Thats really wrong. She'll die to gloams like... even with a godly merc.
     
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    Which ones the mummy?

    To make this post non-spam.

    Yes you always get at least 1 exp per kill
     
  20. Shakes

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    You could conceivably re-roll maps until you get one that you like. Remember you have 700,000 years to complete this project. ;)
     

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