Orb//ES Sorc Help please

DmUgluk

Banned
Orb//ES Sorc Help please

Yo there,

I have made this ES//Orb sorc and yes, she does duel VERY well. I can defeat any melee char w/h too much trouble. My problem lies in other casters... Sorceresses aren't much of a problem, but Wind Druids simply OWN me...

Trappers can give me hell, and I have only defeated 1 Bone Necro so far.
As for Trappers I duel defensively, make them come to me...
Vs. Bone (and Poison too) Necros, I can't do a thing. If I play offensively they tele out of my Orbs way, if I play defensively they spam spells out of my range.

Any tips you can give me? :grin:

Btw, heres stuff:

NW 18/-5 Die
Tal Amu
Occu (buying DF soon)
Ormus 15 (socketed 3/-4 Die)
Shaeled Whitstans
Frostburn
Rare rings
Arach
Silkweaves

No Cold Skillers, No Anni, 10//11 Sorc Torch (Can get anything better atm...)
 

Neuroff

Diabloii.Net Member
Orb basically has no chance against Wind Druids because it takes more than one orb to take down Cyclone Armor. As long as they recast it they won't get hurt.

Trappers have an advantage on you, an orber needs a skill advantage to beat a trapper. You basically have to do what you're already doing, avoid traps.

For bone necs, if you have high enough ES and mana, bone spells should just tickle. MDR on items like Vipermagi help too. Just make sure you don't run out of mana. If you can't use Cold GCs, get life/mana charms. CTA is important.
 

nickedoff

Diabloii.Net Member
Orb basically has no chance against Wind Druids because it takes more than one orb to take down Cyclone Armor. As long as they recast it they won't get hurt.
I don't agree with this.
You fire off like, 32 ice bolts every time you jam down the mouse button.
That's at least 600 damage per bolt, 1,000 if you don't suck too much.

Cyclone armor has like, what, 6k MAX sorb?

Maybe you could tell us your skill layout and attribute setup.
 

Neuroff

Diabloii.Net Member
Are you kidding? It's gonna be doing like 250 dmg each after pvp penalty if it's 1500 dmg orb. 6000/250 = 24. You'd be lucky to even get half of that to hit before he recasts cyclone.
 

chocolate31s

Diabloii.Net Member
How i duel windy's is that i dont try to take out their cyclone armor imidiatlely. Cast a few orb (dont try to explode the orb on the druid, coz then they'll just recast armor) wear the armor down a bit, then move-in and try to explode the orb on the druid. If ur very lucky, he should be dead with one direct hit, if not, go full-on offensive immedieatly, at this time he wont be attacking much coz he will be desperate to recast the armor. Also i find windy one of the most predictable chars when teleporting, coz his aim is always trying to land on top of u, that give u an advantage when going for the direct hit(orb explode on opponent)

hope it helps


PS: oops forgot to add, with all the best tactics u can think of, windy's and trappers are always going to be ur worst enemies. Trappers, cast blizzard to annoy them and hope that they go offensive. Coz u wont stand a chance against defensive trappers. (and yes, ur blizzard is going to be hopelessly weak, but heck, they wont know that so its still useful to annoy trappers with it)
 

DmUgluk

Banned
My Skills:
20 Telekinesis
20 Energy Shield
20 Frozen Orb
20 Cold Mastery
3 Ice Bolt (maxing atm)
6 Teleport (7 mana cost atm)

My Stats:
86 Str (96 w/ equip
136 Dex (165 w/ equip = 75% block)
10 Vita (duh... 40 w/ Equip)
293 Energy (323 w/ Equip)

771 Orb Damage (Missing DF, Anni, 2 SoJs and 3 Cold Skillers)
 

Sechler

Diabloii.Net Member
I just duel them from a distance for the first couple go 'rounds to figure out how they react. For example some will just tele back and forth past you in a straight line. Once I get down their typical tele pattern, I stop aiming at them and aiming where I think they're gonna be. Eventually they land on an orb. The beauty of orb is the spread and even w/o the direct hit i'm wearing them down by just spamming them as I tele.
I feel that one sorb item isn't bm, but it depends on the people your dueling. That being the case, you can throw on a GAngel and Tgods and go head to head w/ trappers. One solid 1k+ orb will hurt them bad if not kill the highest life trappers.
 

chocolate31s

Diabloii.Net Member
Sechler said:
I just duel them from a distance for the first couple go 'rounds to figure out how they react. For example some will just tele back and forth past you in a straight line. Once I get down their typical tele pattern, I stop aiming at them and aiming where I think they're gonna be. Eventually they land on an orb. The beauty of orb is the spread and even w/o the direct hit i'm wearing them down by just spamming them as I tele.
I feel that one sorb item isn't bm, but it depends on the people your dueling. That being the case, you can throw on a GAngel and Tgods and go head to head w/ trappers. One solid 1k+ orb will hurt them bad if not kill the highest life trappers.
orb have short distance and travel slowly, so b4 ur in range to cast orbs, all them bolts of lightining will be firing at u and the trapper will have sufficient time to move out of the way. if u decide to tele on top of them and fire orb, the dmg will definitly not be enough to kill them (i tried several times with my 1.6k orb) while they'll just mb u to death.
 
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