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ok, i'll make same question i did in another forum... ifra

Discussion in 'Assassin' started by elvenswordman, Oct 16, 2006.

  1. elvenswordman

    elvenswordman IncGamers Member

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    ok, i'll make same question i did in another forum...

    Hello, everyone!

    Lets say i have an assassin char with this gear:

    - 2x upped BER'ded Tuc's (20% cb - each)
    - guillaume's face (35% cb)
    - upped (higher kick damage) gore ridders (15% cb)
    - some crafted "blood" glove with 10% cb

    Ok! The whole gear sums 100% cb...

    About Crushing Blow:

    - Will the char have 100% 'cb' on NORMAL dual claw atack or 80% on each claw?
    - What about a special dual claw (Dragon Claw) atack? How will it work?
    - What will be the 'cb' percentage on a kick atack? 100%?
    - If this kick atack is a lvl 20 Dragon talon (4 kicks), what will be 'cb' percentage? (will it be 100% on each kick? or just for the first kick?)

    About gear: I intend to build a 'Martial Arts' sin for Ubber killing. The build i thought of is:

    - Tiger Strike (20)
    - Dragon Talon (20)

    some skills for monster killing too: Blades of ice (20), Phoenix Strike (20);
    other skills: Burst of Speed (1), Claw Mastery (1), Weapon Block (1), all the skills in the way to Shadow Master (1), and Shadow Master (as much points that i have left...)

    ...and gear: (the one i said at the beggining of topic).

    Question:

    - What armor should be better for me? CoH or Fort.? I am thinking about CoH, because every +skill point i can get will improve kick damage a lot (and probably increase number of kicks - in lvl 36 Dragon Talon, the sin kicks 7 times!!!!) and because of elemental resistances...


    About stats:

    - How many points should i spent in str, dex and vit???? I know i won't spend any point in energy.

    About kick atacks:

    - Does the life and mana steal i have in my gear work for kick atacks? What about the life steal on bartuc's (will it work for kick atacks as well)?


    Thank you for the help!!!
     
  2. elvenswordman

    elvenswordman IncGamers Member

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    Just to make things easier (about the main questions here):

    Does 'cb' (crushing blow) works on kicks?
    Does 'cb' on weapons works on kicks?
    Does 'cb' on 2 weapons added together for 1 kick?
    In Dragon Talon, the 'cb' % (if it works on kicks) will aplly just for the first kick (like Tiger Strike charges) or for all of them???
     
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    FrozenSolid IncGamers Member

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    1. Yes.
    2. Yes.
    3. Iirc, only the main claw's CB counts.
    4. CB applies to all kicks.
     
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    elvenswordman IncGamers Member

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    So, if the sin shoots 6 kicks in one release of dragon talon, 'cb' will be applied to each one, making an atack with 80% 'cb' in the first kick, 80% 'cb' in the second, and so on...?
     
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    elvenswordman IncGamers Member

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    About the main claw mods: if the secondary claw has prevent monster heal, it won't be applied to kick atacks?
     
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    Correct. Also, all claw attacks will use the mods on the claw doing the damage, and ignore anything on the other claw (except for things like AR bonuses, I believe those transfer). You'll only have 80% crushing blow on any given attack you make- though with Dragon Claw, you hit twice so you increase the CB chance like that, and with Tail you will hit many times, with 80% on each strike.
     
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    elvenswordman IncGamers Member

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    There's only 1 thing i can say: WOW!
     
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    elvenswordman IncGamers Member

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    For a high lvl boss killing, what do you people think of the gear i want:

    -Guillaume's Face ('Cham')
    -CoH
    -2xupped Tuc's (i thought about putting a 'ber' on the 2, but now i am thinking about putting another rune on the secondary claw)
    -upped gore ridder
    -crafted 'blood' glove

    The sin will use dragon talon...

    - What do u think about gear? What should i wear on belt, rings, amy?
    - Should i max Tiger Strike or, since damage over time with kicks only is higher, should i spend those points in another skill???
     
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    Von Lazuli IncGamers Member

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    Replace the second Bartucs with a Jade. Resists, skills and FHR... nice.

    The rest of the gear looks pretty nice. Tiger-Strike is a waste as the damage is only added to the first kick and it takes a while to charge.

    Calculate what it will take for you to get 3 frame follow up kicks (with a long sequence and against monsters, the first kick speed does not matter) this may mean wearing Highlords/Cat's Eye for speed and 15ias jeweling the Helm. Then, wear a raven on your fingers and make up for other losses on your belt, if you need more speed, go with a Nos Coil, DR, String or Dungos, Resists, Resists rare belt... etc.

    the rest of the gear looks not bad, but maybe think about Laying of Hands or Dracs for gloves. The loss of CB is not huge, and the life tap/extra damage is a godsend.

    Then Skills:
    Talon to taste.
    1 Dragon Flight
    Max Venom
    Max Fade
    Rest of points to taste.

    Laz
     
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    jag IncGamers Member

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    or you can try a last wish in a phase blade -- cb and ctc life tap -- also allows for wearing a high res/block shield.

    Not very martial arts type gear -- but it worked for me with a uber killer doing dt kicks....
     

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