Odd copy protection

Hatsepsut

Banned
Odd copy protection

I bought this DVD and instead of playing, it displays an error msg that it will not play when TV-out is enabled due to copy protection...???

It even refuses to play on the computer screen, spitting the same annoying error at me.

Any suggestions?
 

DurfBarian

Diabloii.Net Member
What's the DVD? Are there any copy-protection logos on the box? There are ways around anything; give us some clues so we can help you around the barriers the iodiots have placed between you and your movie.
 

Carnage-DVS

Diabloii.Net Member
Those barriers are there for a good reason.To prevent illegal immigrants from coming into our country,stealing our jobs and our women,and watching our dvds.
 

Hatsepsut

Banned
No logos and it's not foreign....:confused: I bought it at a petrol station near my house. I unfortunately only have the one DVD that's in my computer so I can't test it on a standalone player. It won't play with PowerDVD or Windows media player. All I get is this annoying: "This copy protected disc cannot be played when the TV out function is enabled". Error code F4D41436, btw... >< This is freaking ridiculous.
 

Mad Merlin

Diabloii.Net Member
Hatsepsut said:
No logos and it's not foreign....:confused: I bought it at a petrol station near my house. I unfortunately only have the one DVD that's in my computer so I can't test it on a standalone player. It won't play with PowerDVD or Windows media player. All I get is this annoying: "This copy protected disc cannot be played when the TV out function is enabled". Error code F4D41436, btw... >< This is freaking ridiculous.
If I remember correctly, this is a "feature" in the official ATI video drivers, in that they will refuse to play DVD video if you have TV-Out enabled. Mind you I'm not really sure how you'd go about disabling it enough to play your DVD, as I don't use the win32 binaries with my Radeon.
 

Starfishied

Diabloii.Net Member
Do you have any nearby friend or neighbor with a DVD player that you can borrow? Or if you got a PS2 or Xbox, give it a try. I don't remember seeing this error before. Only the wrong region thingy message.
 

Hatsepsut

Banned
The thing that make this even more annoying is that all the DVD's I rent I can watch no problem but first time I actually buy one I get this crap...arrgghhh

On a side note, I found a program called DVD X Ghost which sounds like it would do the trick. Now I just have to get it...

Thanks for the tips, guys. :)
 

Choogy

Diabloii.Net Member
Was it used or already opened? Cause someone may have bought it and made a copy and placed the copy in there...

I'd say its just cause its a gas station movie...like their bathrooms, its all sh**ty
 

nnndave

Diabloii.Net Member
Yeah thats what I always do. Just copy paste the error message into yahoo or google. Chances are lots of people get the same messages and you will probably land in a forum somewhere where people are talking about it and know solutions.
 

Hatsepsut

Banned
Thank you Bas, dear. :) I'll check those links out. What DVD X Ghost did was replace the error message with another, saying that the disc is damaged...*sigh*

edit: This is insane.

Please be aware of the following new stance Nvidia is taking with the 41.09 drivers and all future releases.


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The 41.09 and future drivers have more stringent checks in the driver to comply with the latest Macrovision requirements. If the TV encoder does not support Macrovision, you will get the "Macrovision Distribution Failed" error message or a similar message depending on which DVD software player you are using. The BT868 and Conexant CX25870 TV encoders do not support Macrovision. If your graphics card is equipped with one of these TV encoders, then it will not support DVD playback with our 41.09 drivers and above.​

I believe it is illegal for them to choose to disable dvd playback on a pc even when the tv out function is disabled, not hooked up, and not in use. I suggest you write them and share your profound disappointment that for now on the only way you can watch dvds that you legally own on equipment that you legally own is to never update your drivers beyond the 40.72's.

Their drivers automatically lock all dvd playback, not just tv out, when a non-Macrovision approved tv encoder chip is detected (meaning those that have video cards that contain BT868 and Conexant CX25870 TV encoders).

Please spread the word of this new practice by Nvidia as I believe it is not legal for them to disable all, again not just when trying to use tv out, playback on legally owned equipment, software, and dvds.







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I just built a new computer, specs below, installing XP Pro, SP1, 2.03 motherboard drivers, DirectX 9, 41.09 Geforce drivers, and then PowerDVD XP 4 Deluxe and patch. I can't watch any dvds (that are copy protected) as it brings up the error code F4D41436 which means "the tv out port of your display card is not working properly" "This copy protected disc can not be played when the TV out function is enabled."

Attempting to find out exactly what this means and how to correct it Nvidia told me the following
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The 41.09 and future drivers have more stringent checks in the driver to comply with the latest Macrovision requirements. If the TV encoder does not support Macrovision, you will get the "Macrovision Distribution Failed" error message or a similar message depending on which DVD software player you are using. The BT868 and Conexant CX25870 TV encoders do not support Macrovision. If your graphics card is equipped with one of these TV encoders, then it will not support DVD playback with our 41.09 drivers and above.

Nvidia sells GPU to leading add-in card manufacturers. We have no control over the TV encoder they put on the graphics card. We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause.​

That tv encoder is on my VisionTek Geforce3 Ti200 and I believe is/was one of the most popular ones used for those cards so this might affect a lot of people. My tv out is disabled, as it is by default I believe, yet from drivers 41.09 and above I will never be able to watch a dvd on my computer unless I no longer use PowerDVD as conveniently the drivers still work fine with NVDVD
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Thank you for your email. NVDVD will work with the 41.09 drivers. Please make sure you have uninstalled PowerDVD before you install the trial version of NVDVD. The trial version of NVDVD will work for a period of 15 days so that you can verify compatibility with your system.​

So basically this means that if you have a graphics card that happens to use a tv encoder that doesn't comply with the latest Macrovision requirements that Nvidia drivers will no longer allow you to watch a dvd on your computer unless you don't use PowerDVD (not sure what other dvd software progrrams it affects but they said NVDVD still works with them).

Anyone else bothered by this?
I sure am. GRRR. My card has the Conexant CX25870. So I guess my options from here are downloading older drivers or changing DVD player.... *SIGH*
 

BasTyra

Diabloii.Net Member
MA, I dont think anandtech.com and diabloii.net are in competition with one another considering they are forums for two totally different subjects.

*pats you on the back*
 
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