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Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

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  1. LicentiaBJ

    LicentiaBJ IncGamers Member

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    Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    I just noticed that there is a Druid Forum, so I'll repost this question here as it's not likely to get answered in the Community Forum:

    Does anyone know if the Oak Sage Life Bonus is applied to the Poison Creeper or not? I've Googled and I'm not able to find an answer.

    Thanks

    :coffee:
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    Vines don't benefit from Oak Sage (or Battle Orders, for that matter).
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    No, Vines are technically not in a BOable/Lifeable area and don't benefit from it.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    I'm glad I re-asked this question in this forum, because I got a different answer than in the community forum.

    If what you are saying is true, then Heart Of Wolverine would be better, just because it has more life than Oak Sage.

    Being able to survive one more blow can make a huge difference...

    :coffee:
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    Oak sage IMO is the BEST pet for both shape shifter AND of course windy.
    The damage and ar bonus is worth it compare to the HUGE life you gain from oak.
    Esp for pvp, no decent shape shifter AND windy would use HoW or spirit of brab over oak sage.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    Oak Sage's aura effects itself as well >.>.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    I am pvp fury druid, and In my opinion HoW is better for fury druid, the ar and dmg it adds is needed, and you cant depend on the life from oak sake (it might die)
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    Disagree. The damage increase is pitiful compared to Fury ED + Weapon as is the AR increase. The only thing HoW is better for is hitting Barbs and Smiters, which Angelic switch does just as well. Oak has better returns in PvP and arguably in PvM.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    Really? That would actually make it better than HoW because HoW wouldn't affect itself in any beneficial way. In fact, that should essentially give it more life than HoW at level 20.

    :coffee:


     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    I actually have a question about poison creeper myself. Does poison creeper ever get hit in pvp or no? I watched some wolf videos on youtube and it seems like the vine never dies.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    No. Creepers get hit only by monster AI and even that's inconsistent.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    I'm on Act 5 - Quest 2 - Normal Difficulty, and I rarely have to re-cast the vine. So long as the AI has other targets - such as yourself and your minions/hireling - Poison Creeper is not going to get hit very often. It's so much less hassle than casting Ravens over and over.


     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    Hence the "Even that's inconsistent"

    Also, Vine is the smartest summon in Diablo >.>.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    I like HoW for Summon build, because when you get all those +summon skills, the %bonus is absolutely huge.

    But for most SS and Elemental I use the Oak, because even with a mediocre Oak skill level, the bonus is considerable, even if not dependable.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    Thanks again verash. I am getting smarter and smarter about wolves every time because of you.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    ^_^ Glad to be of help.
     
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    Re: Oak Sage Life Bonus > Poison Creeper?

    Well I think the same thing also goes for HoW, you can't depend on the dmg and ar from HoW (it might die) :wink:

    The life from Oak is much perferred over the amount of ar (damage increase isn't high enough) gain from HoW.



     

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