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Discussion in 'Diablo 3 General Discussion' started by fromtheshadow, Nov 6, 2010.

  1. fromtheshadow

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    nudity and torturein D3

    i just read an article where jay Wilson discusses gore and violence in D3, and unfortunately he says that in D3 they will avoid nudity and torture!

    this is really disappointing, i can understand not wanting to focus on nudity and torture too much( i don't want gore porn(saw), or porn for than matter) but it would be just censoring the lore if they show non at all. It is clearly implied in the lore and feel of the diablo universe that a reality of the universe is demons torturing humans and nudity is just the reality of human bodies, they don't need to show sexual intercourse of activity but nudity really isn't a biggy, it's just more realistic. both D1 and D2 represented this with out going overboard.

    I hope they do represent this as much as they did in D2 & D1 as it was an element of the diablo feel.
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    I'm sure there will be cinematics where folks die.
     
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    No torture? So no dismembered bodies on racks? Sadface.
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    I think that counts as gore since there is nothing done to them since they're already dead.

    Next to that, we already saw TORTURE in a ghostly kind of way by the queen who beheaded herself.


     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    it's seems from the blizzcon b-roll that there are already dead skeletons on torture devices, but why not have a few instance of torture? it would add so much more scare.

    also isn't this game marketed to mature people? why shy away from disturbing stuff?
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    It needs to be played by kids to for a bigger audience.
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    They want an M-rating. Not an R16 or a can't-be-sold-in-Australia R18.
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    so it's all about money. what happened to creating art?
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    They can create art without graphic depiction of nudity and torture that gets the game banned in an entire continent.


     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    Yup, creating art suited for all audiences everywhere gives Mo' money!
     
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    @Glass
    Why didn't D1 and D2 get banned then my smart friend?
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    they are reducing authenticity when they push themselves to make what will be acceptable in all regions.
    they should make the game in all it's glory first, then remove some of the stuff for other more strict regions.

    the Greek epics are a little lost when people censor the sexual parts of the story for kids. it's acceptable when you want to tell it to kidz, but when trying tell the stories in their complete form, the way they were meant to be you have to include things like Aphrodite being born from uranus's balls:thumbup:


     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    you got a point


     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    1) Laws have not be eternally present.
    2) Laws differ per country.
    3) When they made Diablo 1 noone anticipated it'd be this big a success.
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    Well I guess Australia has just recently(meaning after D2 LOD was released) realized that they think the US are cool for having a thing against violent video games, and so has decided to take it to the extreme.

    Banning video games, do they also ban movies or even books?

    Diablo 2 had a mature rating as well though, has the scale changed for how a game is rated? Because I'll admit I liked the succubi and I absolutely LOVED Andariel!


     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    you thought they were making D3 for any other reason than money? :crazyeyes:


     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    No nudity and torture, but that doesn't mean there isn't gore and blood.

    From what I've seen, there's plenty of those in the demo videos. It can only get better once the game's polished enough to be released.
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    This was a big issue back in 2008 when the game was first revealed, and the amount of gore and gruesome stuff in that year's demo satisfied even the most discerning D1 fans. (AKA me.)

    http://diablowiki.net/Horror

    The 2009 demo was less gruesome, since the setting didn't support it, but this year's dungeons were quite gruesome and gothic and moody. I was actually impressed by the amount of blood, body parts, clickable items called "basket of decapitated heads", numerous torture devices with bloody corpses on them, etc.

    I'm surprised to see this thread since I assume everyone watched the gameplay movie and saw the screenshots this year? What part of iron maidens, blood filled spike pits, racks, spiked boards, manacles with rotting bodies, human bird cages, etc, wasn't clear from the visuals?

    Also, what version of D1 and D2 did you play where there was nudity and torture? I guess the Succubi and some of the bodies on spikes were naked in D1, but at 640x480 in 2d sprites you'd have a hard time proving it. There were tons of gory bodies lying around, and gruesome stories, but those were in D2 as well, and they're certainly in D3.
     
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    Re: nudity and torturein D3

    I never quite understood why torture, sexual violence and nudity are worse than blowing people to tiny bits... Rambo can blast an entire foreign army to pieces whilst swearing under his breath and everyone's okay with it... but showing off a nipple.. uh oh that's a big NO-NO...

    I'm disappointed they're cutting the more mature stuff from the Diablo series. Adding a lot of blood, gore and violence just isn't quite the same as the little darker elements Diablo incorporated into its atmosphere.

    Just look at Warcraft and SC2, both stories actually featured genocides and mass murder with loads of violence; but it just didn't feel as believable or serious. The first two Diablos didn't just have murder and violence, they had tiny details that made the whole thing more grim and took its players more seriously than Warcraft or SC did.

    Sure the art might have gotten less dark but it was only of the elements that gave Diablo a more "gothic" feeling. Now it appears they're removing the other dark and sombre rudiments as well.

    So yeah I'm not disappointed they removed the torture and nudity per se, but rather the more serious elements that made Diablo more realistic than Blizz's other franchises.
     

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