Newsweek says "oopsie", undermines credibility of US and its press

Newsweek says "oopsie", undermines credibility of US and its press

Sweeet. Either some moron at Newsweek made a major oopsie, or the US press isn't nearly as "free" as we think it is. Either way, people are dying and jihad is being called for all over again.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/f0f2ccbe-c5c2-11d9-87fd-00000e2511c8.html

Newsweek magazine has apologised for errors that may have been made in its report on May 9 claiming that a US military report showed that US interrogators desecrated the Koran in Guantanamo Bay. //

More than a dozen people died last week in riots in Afghanistan triggered by the report, which the magazine now admits may have been inaccurate. The Pentagon has called on the magazine to retract the story.

Editor Mark Whitaker said, “Our original source later said he couldn't be certain about reading of the alleged Qur'an incident in the report we cited, and said it might have been in other investigative documents or drafts.â€

The White House said on Monday the apology was insufficient, and that he magazine should retract the report.

“This was a report based on a single anonymous source that could not substantiate the allegation that was made,’’ said Scott McClellan, White House spokesman.

In a letter to readers published in the latest issue of Newsweek, Mr Whitaker added: “We regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the US soldiers caught in its midstâ€.

The furore over the article will fuel the debate over the reliability of anonymous sources and unsettle an already defensive mainstream US media.

Newsweek said its reporters had proceeded with the publication of the story after its national security correspondent sent a draft copy to a "senior defence official", asking "Is this accurate or not?"

The official challenged one aspect of the story but was silent about the rest, Newsweek said. "The official had not meant to mislead, but lacked detailed knowledge of the Southern Command report," it wrote.

Many in Pakistan believe the US government has bullied Newsweek into questioing its own story, which in its essentials echoes many other allegations of abuse at Guantanamo Bay that are under investigation.

Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's President, told the FT on Satursday that the incident, in which a Koran was reportedly put down a toilet, was “very very regrettable†and created “difficulties†in relations with the US.

General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, last week said no evidence had been found yet to back allegations that a Koran, Islam's holy book, had been put down a toilet at the camp in Cuba.

The riots, which spread to Pakistan and Indonesia, prompted interventions by numerous US officials, including Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State, who said the US would not “tolerate†disrespect for the Koran.

Shifting the focus from its own reporting, Newsweek yesterday said Imran Khan, the Pakistani cricket legend and opponent of President Pervez Musharraf, lit the “spark†of Muslim protests by brandishing the magazine before journalists in Islamabad.

In an interview with the FT last week, Mr Khan said the alleged profanities had profoundly shocked Muslim sensibilities. “People in the secular west do not understand the place of the Koran in our society.
 

Namyeknom

Diabloii.Net Member
I like the fact that there are god knows how many people in Guantanamo Bay, none of whom (as far as I'm aware) we have been told why they've been detained there (I mean more that just the 'their terrorist' line), and the news story that causes the biggest upset, in the country many of these people are from, is one about a book being flushed down a toilet...
 

maccool

Diabloii.Net Member
If we promise to flush copies of the bible and constution down the toilet and televise this event on live TV, you reckon that will stop the rioting and killing?

Yeah, me neither.
 

Johnny

Banned
Well we recently managed to get the one and only Swedish citizen out of Guantanamo Bay so now they can do whatever they want in there.


By the way why do Cuba allow USA to have a bae on thier island with prisoners?
 

Ash Housewares

Diabloii.Net Member
the establishment of the military base at Guantanamo was granted when the US aided Cuba in gaining independence in the Spanish-American War
 

jmervyn

Diabloii.Net Member
Well, I'm glad that I had the sense to open the week with the 'Runaway Bride' thread instead of this one. :)

That being said, one legitimate point from my (admittedly Christian & mostly conservative) point of view: Why do we give a rotten potatoe what these Islamic fascist types are doing, when people of the same ilk have desecrated churches, burned Bibles, slaughtered priests, & so forth - moreover, you constantly find mention of anti-Hindu violence by them. Why are they getting a free pass on moral outrage?

If Southern Baptists were rioting for similar trivial reasons, the media would be in full-sneering-press mode...
 

Johnny

Banned
Ash Housewares said:
the establishment of the military base at Guantanamo was granted when the US aided Cuba in gaining independence in the Spanish-American War
Wierd that Cuba didnt tear it down after USA tried to invade Cuba and got thier butts kicked at the bay of pigs (gotta love that name).
 

jmervyn

Diabloii.Net Member
Johnny said:
Wierd that Cuba didnt tear it down after USA tried to invade Cuba and got thier butts kicked at the bay of pigs (gotta love that name).
You've not got a grasp on the history, and that is nothing to be ashamed of - most Americans don't really get it either.

The posessions were in U.S. custody prior to the Cuban Revolution. They were fully-legal military bases.

The Bay of Pigs was an illegal invasion, sponsored by JFK and the CIA, using Cuban insurgents and soldiers of fortune. To comply with the window dressing, the U.S. tried to pretend it was a legitimate revolution. There were supposed to be supportive U.S. military air strikes, but at the last minute JFK backpedalled. The resulting scandal was over the CIA using these mercenary forces to try overthrowing Castro's gov't, particularly since it was an open secret by the time it occurred.

If the op had been a supported military program, it would have succeeded, but JFK would have been labelled a warmongering imperialist...
 

Ash Housewares

Diabloii.Net Member
better move by Castro was to gain support and sympathy rather than retaliate, and he squeezed money & supplies out of us in prisoner exchange
 
jmervyn said:
That being said, one legitimate point from my (admittedly Christian & mostly conservative) point of view: Why do we give a rotten potatoe what these Islamic fascist types are doing, when people of the same ilk have desecrated churches, burned Bibles, slaughtered priests, & so forth - moreover, you constantly find mention of anti-Hindu violence by them. Why are they getting a free pass on moral outrage?
Just a question...was adding the "e" to potato a deliberate tribute to Mr. Quayle?
 

Suicidal Zebra

Diabloii.Net Member
jmervyn said:
Well, I'm glad that I had the sense to open the week with the 'Runaway Bride' thread instead of this one. :)

That being said, one legitimate point from my (admittedly Christian & mostly conservative) point of view: Why do we give a rotten potatoe what these Islamic fascist types are doing, when people of the same ilk have desecrated churches, burned Bibles, slaughtered priests, & so forth - moreover, you constantly find mention of anti-Hindu violence by them. Why are they getting a free pass on moral outrage?

If Southern Baptists were rioting for similar trivial reasons, the media would be in full-sneering-press mode...
Honestly, I seriously doubt that. If we believe what the right-wing press would have us believe, the so-call Elite (see established and presumably left-wing of course) Media is rabidly anti-war and would rather put a solid hit on the Administration than tweak the noses of a few Baptists.

As for the legitamate point of view... listen hard and you can hear about anti-muslim violence perpetrated by Hindu's aswell as the opposite, violence on Muslims by other Muslims, and violence against them by governments too.

Seriously, the Iraq War is dominating the headlines to the extent that all other world issues are being drowned out. This is a bad thing, but above all it gives none of us a balanced picture of the world around us and leads to the reactionary views expressed on these boards, in the large media emporiums, and populations groups as a whole.
 

jmervyn

Diabloii.Net Member
Suicidal Zebra said:
Honestly, I seriously doubt that. If we believe what the right-wing press would have us believe, the so-call Elite (see established and presumably left-wing of course) Media is rabidly anti-war and would rather put a solid hit on the Administration than tweak the noses of a few Baptists.

As for the legitamate point of view... listen hard and you can hear about anti-muslim violence perpetrated by Hindu's aswell as the opposite, violence on Muslims by other Muslims, and violence against them by governments too.

Seriously, the Iraq War is dominating the headlines to the extent that all other world issues are being drowned out. This is a bad thing, but above all it gives none of us a balanced picture of the world around us and leads to the reactionary views expressed on these boards, in the large media emporiums, and populations groups as a whole.
SZ, I like you too much to debate, plus I wouldn't want to waste U.S. tax dollars doing so. But I respectfully disagree - and I'd freely admit that a lot of the bile I get comes from places like http://www.mideastweb.org/index.html & http://www.frontpagemag.com/ , which are readily dismissed as biased, etc. etc. However, this anti-Western/Christian 'holier than thou' mentality had been simmering far before even Gulf War #1. I recall being told once when I was in your neck of the woods that if I really understood the plight of the Palestinians then I would endorse them slaughtering Jews too. He cited the oft-mentioned 'millions' of dead Palestinians to boot. This from the fat, rich son of an oil cartel VIP.

It isn't like I don't understand the upset by Muslims about the supposed incident. But to cede moral high ground to them? Uh-uh.
 

KillJoyBob

Diabloii.Net Member
The question is not whether it's alright to flush people's beliefs down the toilet as a means of interrogation. (although that topic could go 3-4 pages in this forum).

The question is whether Newsweek "screwed the pooch". I think they did, and a lot of mayhem ensued. Lessons should have been learned from CBS News and New York Times incidents of recent past.

The next question is if someone yells "fire" in a crowded theater and some people are trampled to death, would he be legally responsible if there was indeed no fire at all. I have to think yes.
 

jmervyn

Diabloii.Net Member
dirkdig said:
:lol: I remember that.... sooo dumb
In all honesty, I also spell defense, behaviour, and armour properly. Just not consistently, since I don't want red lines all over my e-mail. Damn you, Micro$oft spell checker!!!
 
Top