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Discussion in 'Necromancer' started by Invigilator, Jun 24, 2005.

  1. Invigilator

    Invigilator IncGamers Member

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    Newbie Help.

    Hello!
    I'm new here and I need help with my Necromancer.
    I built a Summoner/Bone Hybrid.
    He has Skeleton Mastery, Raise Skeleton, Revive Maxed.
    I am using the Marrowalk Bug.
    So i am not working on the Bone skills.
    I am Clvl 75 Will I be able to Max the The Required Synergies?
    Oh!
    And he is Using Full Trangs.
    With Dual Manalds.
    With a +3 PnB Ammy.
     
  2. Gix

    Gix IncGamers Member

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    First of all, never ever ever ever ever max revive. 1 point is enough. Revived monsters are retarded.
    Max Bone Spirit, Max Bone Spear, rest into Bone Wall.
    Full Trangs setup is better for poison. Try getting better caster gear if you can afford it. (If you need suggestions, just ask).

    -Gix

    P.S. Is this supposed to be a poem?
     
  3. Invigilator

    Invigilator IncGamers Member

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    Meh.
    That's the way I type.
    So it was bad Maxing Revives...:(
    Can I still Max Spear, Spirit and Wall?
    I'm At Lvl 75.O_O
     
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    grimsleeper IncGamers Member

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    What is the Marrowalk bug?

    ~GrimSleeper
     
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    grimsleeper IncGamers Member

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    Maxing Revives can help you clear all hell levels very easily. it's very expensive in terms of Mana, but as long as you have maxed skeleton mastery, why not get the ability to revive one more monster? Of course, depends on how many monsters you can keep going. I find in act 5 hell, I can keep a full contingent of revives (25 at the moment) going. Act 5 toughies, champions, uniques etc never trouble me. Even Hephasto was putty in my hands :))
    Don't despair over your invested points... use the revives well!
    ~GrimSleeper
     
  6. Gix

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    I can get 20 revives with my plus skills alone! HAH! And I only used 1 point.

    Nope, time to restart :(.

    -Gix
     
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    batuchka IncGamers Member

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    Full Trangs reduces fcr to zero when you turn into a ghoulord so its not a suggested set up for a bone or bone/summon necro :( As Gix said a venomancer or poison/summon necro works well with that and Death's web. All is not lost however just get a +3summon ammy or +2 necro and AOKL and your build works like a zookeeper if you max mages as well i guess. Ditch the manalds for ravens, dwaft, wisp for elemental absorb or if you are richer bks/sojs. Ultimately with that many minions a might merc with a Pride/Infinity polearm would work like a dream :p
     
  8. Invigilator

    Invigilator IncGamers Member

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    Thank you for all your help.
    So i get rid of Trangs?
    Pity.
    I love the Look.:(
    So if i decide so restart?
    And make a Bone Necro?
    Should i get high FCR?
    I saw a guide here saying 85 FCR is mandatory.
    And any Gear?
    I can afford -some- Godly Gear.
    No BOTD's though.
    Enigma or Stone are within my reach.
     
  9. Dancolen

    Dancolen IncGamers Member

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    Summoner - no FCR is needed, Trangs is perfectly fine, with the amount of summoning you have now, I would just stick with summoning, possibly exploit the marrowwalk bug and max bone spear if you want a weak-decent spear or spirit(max that instead if you want it).

    I have no idea why people think summoner needs FCR... /shrug.(not anyone in this thread, but other threads have had like 80 FCR with a summoner and get upset when someone recommends more + skills or mana or resists over the FCR) 0 FCR is fine for summoner, period, its fine for poison.... FCR is only important for Corpse Explosion and Bone spells. CE is fine going off slow in single player games, and i can only imagine it needing to be fast in cow level or such places. Poison doesnt stack and you have to wait the 2 sec to recast it anyway, in other words you cant spam poison, it does set dmg/time. So FCR is not as important there too.

    Bone - FCR is king, need a decent amount, tho 85 is not really needed cept for PVP. Need the mana to keep up with the cost of slinging that bone around tho. Things like Ume's Lament, Lidless Wall, Trang's Gloves or Frostburn, Shako, etc... are nice and relatively cheap things for a bone caster. ive still got to get to work on my Bone/Summon Hybrid who has Que Hagen's, Ume's, White, Lidless, Trangs, and i think wurmskull(gasp!).

    Remember you have 100 skills tops for most players(thats lvl **)
    For Bone/Summon id recommend
    Max Spirit
    Max Spear
    Max Wall
    1 Armor/CE/Teeth
    Max Raise Skeleton
    1 Mastery
    1 GMastery
    1 Clay
    1 SResist
    1 in Amp through Decryp
    the 3 AI curses if you want.
    Thats 94 for you.

    For pure bone its
    Max Spirit
    Max Spear
    Max Wall
    Max Teeth
    Clay + Gmastery + summon resist?
    Your 4-10 curses 1 point
    1 CE/Armor
    1 Raise skelly and 1 skell mast if have alot of +skills and want some protection
    Marrowwalk

    Trangs is perfect for poison build, its ok/decent for summoner and provides awesome resists and mana, it just doesnt work for Bone build(note we are implying full trangs and the Ghoullord itself, not any of the armor pieces necessarily, though you want FCR/mana or mana regen on those pieces possibly instead of what trangs offers. Its just the Ghoullord effect completely destroys FCR for a Bone Nec
     
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    Level 89. Lvl 1 doesn't count. Yeah, you've pretty much committed yourself to summoner with all those points in revives. You'll never get a more powerful bonespear than you will out of 20 points in mages at this point so I would just do that. But since you've already invested those points, might I recommend disrupting the occassional pubby duel with a horde of hell bovines? It's good fun.
     
  11. Invigilator

    Invigilator IncGamers Member

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    Hell Bovines.
    Meh.
    I wish.
    So i'll stick with Summons and a Weak Spirit.
    This is my first Necro.
    I'll be making a Bone Nec soon.
    Just have to get a Second Marrowalks. :cool:
     

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