New untwinked problem

maareek

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There are a lot of facts that either don't come up often or are just flat out weird, so it's pretty hard to know all the formulas and mechanics for everything in the game. Fortunately there are lots of good resources out there to find that kind of information out from.

Level 75 is right where you want to be going into Hell. If you don't try to get in too big of a hurry and use Dim Vision on gloams, witches and the like you can do just fine with negative resistances with a fishymancer. Obviously you'd rather have good resistances, but you can make up for bad resistances with good curse usage and patience whereas you can't really make up for losing +skills, so I wouldn't call it a good trade-off for this character. Beyond that, lightning resistance is the one you would actually care about most anyway, and two items you would want to get (Lore and Spirit) have 30 and 35 of that, respectively.

Trang-Oul's armor is very nice, congrats on that! :)
 

SunsetVista

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Congrats on finishing NM and on trang's armor! You can do it!

As maareek said, good curse usage and patience will go a long way. Don't run ahead of your army, especially with that new frw (I've died like that before to those shocking hit bats). Watch out for attacks that pierce (gloam lightning, spear cat javelins in Act 5 especially, vipers bone spears in Act 5).
 

Ergroilnin

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Oh damn going full clears on p8 sure takes time when I have lots of college work to do. The whole first act took me what a week? Well anyway I'm in act 2 now. I made Lore as you all suggested and sure it's better a bit for such a cheap RW. I also got white Monarch but since I used my Larzuk's for other things, spirit will have to wait till almost the end of the game. Shame on me.

Also I died like three times in Jails to various boss explosions even with all those points in vitality, I seriously can't imagine playing hardcore even though I really want to :( Also I read the whole Superdave's thread and I can't imagine how he did what he did. He is insane. Insanely good and patient that is!
 

Ergroilnin

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Well I am nearing the end of act 2 and it's been really Hell! All those crazy narrow areas with retarded merc without any teleport means, I went through like 400 TP scrolls just to position the merc correctly (mind you, I didn't even summon any skellies for maggot's lair, that would be suicide.

But I am starting to think about what to do when I actually finish whole Hell. I'll be around 89-90 at that point and I just might wanna continue leveling him. What are the best places to do so in 1.12? Baal runs on /p8 all the way to 99 or what? I never had character higher than 93 mind you so I am not really sure. My main concern will be highest experience yield, not item hunting.
 

maareek

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I haven't ever really looked into optimizing experience, but I would assume that running area level 85 targets would be best up to 94, then Baal runs from there. I don't know the nuances of running the targets with a fishymancer to say whether Chaos Sanctuary and/or Nihlathak would be worth running instead, though I assume Nihlathak is more a target in tandem with holding on to the Ancient's quest. Any a85 area (Pits, Mausoleum, River of Flame/Chaos Sanctuary, WSK/Throne, etc.) should do the job and I guess you could just do straight Baal runs the whole way, especially if you don't want items as Baal runs will be by a drastic margin the worst you can do for item finding, although Baal himself caps out the experience he gives at p3 and you'll be suffering the <-5 level exp penalty on his experience until you hit 94, anyway.
 

pharphis

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fishehs are so slow and annoying that it's probably most efficient (if using enigma) to run several targets in a single run such as pits + Baal + CS (maybe)
 

Cyrax

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You take that back phar! Fishy's aren't that slow. They just need really good gear to be fast.

If your plan is to get him a few more lvl's i'd say a combination of several lvl 85 area's would suit best so you don't need to keep raising that army every time (although in Pindle's garden that doesn't take up too much time). If you are more serious about 99, then i'd suggest getting better gear (like enigma) with a faster character first.
 

Ergroilnin

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Oh god the seven tal rasha's tombs took like six casual hours. The immune ghosts -_-. Well I finally made it to third act now.

I've made Edge RW bow on switch for these things and it really does help, now I have PMH for those packs which really helps the skellies. Still haven't found my Obedience runes tho T_T
 

Ergroilnin

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Made it to CS yesterday Act 3 and 4 went by much faster than whole A2 did. Thankfully. Level ** now, I do wonder if I'll end up 89 after all those various deaths or if I'll hit 90 thanks to whole A5 and ances.

Meanwhile my first SP hellforge wasn't exactly good to me. Got me Ko which sucks because it if was Fal or Lum I could've made Obedience/Treachery for my merc :/

On the other side I found two nice rares for the necro, summonin head with lots of various resists and +2 summon skills and rare circlet with +2 summon skills, 20 frw and 18 alres. Not godly but good enough imo. Also finally gambled that teleport amulet for those situations I just cannot position my army correctly, helps alot and the repair charges aren't THAT bad. Like 5k each lvl 2 tele.
 

Ergroilnin

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Sorry for triple post but since noone else posts...

Five quests left till Pat. Got 34 FCR Spirit Monarch which is nice! I mean sure it sucks it isn't that 1 more % but still great. And I got Eth 4 socket Thresher in Bloody Hills so I made yet another Insight but this time it's 17! meditation lvl aura, more dmg% as well (actually almost perfect 258 of 260!), max crit strike (6), only AR bonus is 190 but that doesn't really matter. Really nice! Low dmg fell like 300 or so but max got up to about 4.6k from 2.2 not to mention fast AS instead of normal AS so a big improvement over the last one. I'm satisfied! Hopefully there's gonna be at least one more lucky drop till Pat but I wouldn't be mad if this was it.
 
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