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DrunkPotHead
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I hear a knock on my door...Freemason said:
IDupedInMyPants
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I agree that it is pretty tame compared to some of her other work. That doesn't make it not wrong though. I don't think hypersensitivity is the right word. In fact I think that's a comedic word choice coming from someone currently flipping out over people adopting a baby with a tv camera on them.
Who said the kid wasn't already a black baby from the ghetto who's mother was on meth and who eats fried chicken and watermelon while drinking malt liquor and stealing tv sets?
Maybe second place can win the covetous, curly-haired jewish baby, and third place can win the hairless, militant, man-hating baby. If only we could just get over our hypersensitivities and realize that all people fit their stereotypes 100%, especially babies.
Who said the kid wasn't already a black baby from the ghetto who's mother was on meth and who eats fried chicken and watermelon while drinking malt liquor and stealing tv sets?
Maybe second place can win the covetous, curly-haired jewish baby, and third place can win the hairless, militant, man-hating baby. If only we could just get over our hypersensitivities and realize that all people fit their stereotypes 100%, especially babies.
LunarSolaris
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I'll tell you the basic difference. A normal adoption isn't handled like a contest or gameshow. Adoption agencies try to find the best matches for a baby based on qualified candidates. They don't hold a baby up for everyone to see and say "want this kid?? Now compete for him!"IDupedInMyPants said:
Private adoptions work toward creating private records, discretion, and dignity within the adoption process. A show like this turns it into a public spectacle.
So yeah, I'd say it's a huge difference.
zodiac66
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They have been talking about this on the radio since this happened in my area.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/entertainment/8546880.htm?1c
The director from the agency called in on our local talk radio show and stated that this was done to let people know about open adoption and to allow the birth mother to pre-screen the adoptive parents.
I don't agree with the idea to turn this into a circus event. Adoption, on both parts, would be a very difficult situation. The birth mother giving away the baby and the child's right to know their heritage.
From what was said by the director, the birth mother wanted to have the best for the baby and could choose the parents. While listening to her, I didn't get the sence of a game show type of event. What airs on TV may be different. I hope not.
After talking about the "event" the director went on to speak of the numerous childeren who are ages 5 and up who are awaiting adoption. This just broke my heart to hear of the many children who are in foster care, bouncing around from family to family, to the children who live their lives till age 18 in a children's home.
She also said that most birth mothers do sign on to allow themselves to be found if the child wants it. From what she said, this was the case here.
I honestly hope that this is not some type of parody of the adoption process.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/entertainment/8546880.htm?1c
The director from the agency called in on our local talk radio show and stated that this was done to let people know about open adoption and to allow the birth mother to pre-screen the adoptive parents.
I don't agree with the idea to turn this into a circus event. Adoption, on both parts, would be a very difficult situation. The birth mother giving away the baby and the child's right to know their heritage.
From what was said by the director, the birth mother wanted to have the best for the baby and could choose the parents. While listening to her, I didn't get the sence of a game show type of event. What airs on TV may be different. I hope not.
After talking about the "event" the director went on to speak of the numerous childeren who are ages 5 and up who are awaiting adoption. This just broke my heart to hear of the many children who are in foster care, bouncing around from family to family, to the children who live their lives till age 18 in a children's home.
She also said that most birth mothers do sign on to allow themselves to be found if the child wants it. From what she said, this was the case here.
I honestly hope that this is not some type of parody of the adoption process.
Is it? Looked at who is "donating" this child? A nice white middle class 16 year old girl who probably had adequate prenatal care thanks to mom and dad's budget and didn't use drugs. There's even a picture on the article, which apparently none of you went to read.eddy said:
Is it really racist to admit that people are more likely to adopt white babies than black children of any age? Is it derogatory to admit that a child born to a mom on drugs will have a host of behavioral and neurological problems at birth that may or may not resolve later on? Is it racist and derogatory to say that a woman from the ghetto probably has less access to medical care and prenatal care than a woman from the middle class and so her fetus is more likely to be born underweight? Apparently so. Now Duped, if you're going to call all homosexuals disease-ridden, can't I make another series of generalizations based on just as valid facts? Take a look at some of them.
The mentality going into this is that a white baby is a prize to be won. No one here is talking about helping children who may be stuck in social services for the rest of their childhoods, only to be bounced from foster home to foster home. If this were a story about a couple adopting four children ranging from 4 to 12 whose grandmother couldn't care for them anymore, that would be one thing. This is a competition for a coveted object..a white baby...and that is repulsive. Would there be a similar thing for a black child, a handicapped child, a preteen? Doubt it.
IDupedInMyPants
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There's going to be a screening process with any adoption. So this screening process will be on tv, big deal. Is this something likely to cause harm or is it something you're just uncomfortable with?LunarSolaris said:
It's a bit racist in that it's unclear exactly what your statement suggested, but all possible interpretations were race-based stereotypes.Anyee said:
"What are the consolation prizes...black babies from the ghetto whose moms were on meth during pregnancy?"
All black babies are from the ghetto? All babies from the ghetto are black? All black/ghetto babies' mothers are on drugs? I really don't think you thought much about the implications of what you were saying when you spit it out, and I'm not sure that a chart showing adoption rates not meeting the needs is supportive of any of those implications.
I don't see why that's necessarily a civil inequality or whatever you're making this show out to be. What makes you think everyone deserves to have a show that was someone else's idea?
Edit: Just FYI I ignored the disease ridden comment because you can't quote me on it, everything I said on that particular subject was factual and documented, and it's a hijack anyway.
Nastie_Bowie
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Gotta agree with Anyee, here.
This is a very sad state of affairs.
Sick, sick, sick!
This is a very sad state of affairs.
Sick, sick, sick!
I selected three characteristics that were likely to make a child less adoptable than a white middle class healthy baby. If you went through some of those links, you'd notice that black babies are disproportionally waiting for an adopted parent than whites. The rates of disability, either behavioral or physical, in adoptable children is 30-50%. I'm having trouble getting exact stats because most sites don't distinguish between a special needs "korean baby" and a special needs "biracial CP teenager."IDupedInMyPants said:
LunarSolaris
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I think it's a little of both really. I'm uncomfortable with it because it's sensationalizing a process and making a mockery of a process that is actually generally respected. I suppose where my biggest issues come into play, is the idea of turning an adoption into a pseudo "reality game show" where we create "drama" about an adoption for the sake of entertainment.Duped said:
Is the child likely to sustain any long term psychological damage or harm in this process? I doubt it. However, I am a bit worried about creating a circus out of the event.
Besides, since when did Barbara Walters career falter to the point of needind to rely on sensationalism to keep it afloat?
I heard about this on the radio aswell and the director was on the show and it seems very similar to the sought of thing that i heard, Saying it is infact a documentry and that It had been taken and portrayed as a reality program just to bring in the ratings and get people talking about it which is ovbiously haszodiac66 said: