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Need some build advice

Discussion in 'Sorceress' started by Tuhnu, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. Tuhnu

    Tuhnu IncGamers Member

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    Need some build advice

    Hey,
    I had a long break from Diablo because I started WoW, and since I got bored of it, I thought I'd start Diablo again. ^^

    My problem is, I don't know what build should I use to start MFing? I've started the previous seasons with pure blizzard and I'd like to try something different this time. What build would get me started if I have NOTHING to start with? (except the epic staff with +1 fire bolt, ofc).

    I've thought of some kind of a Frozen Orb/Chain Lightning build, but I'm not sure if the CL dmg will be high enough without any high-end gear (I just had a look at a FO/CL build with a skill planner and all I got was ~2200 CL dmg, which is quite low, would it work in cow runs?). I'd like lightning for easier cow farming, though. Would a pure lightning sorc be a good MFer? I'm mostly into boss runs, but if the pits etc are good (are they?) places to run, I'd like to try those too.

    Is a basically naked meteorb sorc good enough for pits/andy/meph/diablo/pindle etc? Of course I'd start with some easier bosses like andy, but how good gear do I need to start running chaos sanctuary, for example?

    This kind of questions have probably been asked many times before, but I haven't found the answers that I seek, yet. :p
     
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    piedpiper IncGamers Member

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    Re: Need some build advice

    Pretty much the same situation here Tuhnu..I just shifted to Europe from West. And I'm making myself a Meteorb sorc to get things started. I only intend to use her for Meph and Pindle (maybe diablo and cows). There's a guide by Eilo on Meteorbs somewhere here ...you can search for it. Im following that but oriented towards MF gear. Full Tal's and MF gear to fill up the other slots...relatively easy equipment to get when starting from nothing as stuff like Nagels and chancies are usually cheap. Right now, i'm seeing full Tal's go for 1hr...which is infact quite cheap when considering a character that can survive a beating in hell.
    I haven't heard of a good Naked MF Meteorb sorc. Considering how MF is so gear dependant...

    Anyway, i've always chosen a sorc as my first char when starting up the game anew. You can get by quite well with them because you have several alternatives for good cheap gear when it comes to budget builds. She comes with tele too so you dont have to invest in a nig.
    That's my two cents :).
     
  3. sirpoopsalot

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    Re: Need some build advice

    CL/FO will work ok without good equipment (probably a 'hair' worse than Meteorb, mostly because it tends to need a little more mana). 2200 CL damage isn't a lot, but in a game with a small number of players it'll be enough to get you through fairly well. Don't forget that damage will be to every monster that's hit, and sometimes/often monsters are hit twice in one casting. When you apply that to a pack of 8 monsters, with 4 of them getting hit twice, that 2200 starts looking pretty respectable. However, even with that shared damage, if you get in a game with a bunch of other players, you'll probably slow down quite a bit because of the monster's increased life. Also, although the build-name is CL/FO, after a while you'll probably find yourself casting Lightning more and more (which is probably closer to 4k damage with your skills).

    The pure Lightning build will have significantly better damage, but questing through hell can be a little bit painful in areas with lots of lightning immunes, and the build is rather limited in where it can go (there are a few places, but not that many). Of course, even if you play solo like I do, you can teleport past most of the annoying monsters and get through the quests you need with a little effort and a decent mercenary, but the runs can be monotonous. However, if you can (eventually) afford an Infinity polearm for your merc, a lightning sorc will be among the very best MFers you can make. I don't know if starting with a pure-lightning sorc is necessarily a wise idea though.

    Overall, I'd have to say Blizzsorc is such a popular choice for a reason. There are just enough bosses and areas that the build will really excel in - even with bad equipment - to get you good items quite quickly.

    Otherwise, with bad equipment, I think a dual-element build is a good choice. Many will argue for Meteorb (which uses a fireball primary-attack), but Lightning and ChainLightning will consistently hit more enemies in one casting, so overall there's really not a ton of difference between those two builds, in my experience. The third "great" choice for a poor-man's dual-element sorceress is a Blizzard/Fireball hybrid... kindof a weaker blizzardsorc for boss runs, but with a strong backup attack in Fireball to help with area runs... I haven't adequately tried this one yet to comment on it, but I know it'll definitely work (and fyi, when I do try this, I'll go with a BlizzWaller, just to be different).


    As for areas like the Pits... they're different than boss runs. Boss runs typically produce more "good" items in a shorter timeframe, but there are limits (like Mephisto only dropping items of TreasureClass 78 or lower, meaning you won't find TC81, 84, or 87 items from him). Also, on boss runs, you tend to focus on facing a small number of monsters, so a specialist build (like a Blizzsorc) can really excel.

    Area runs are different in that you'll face more diverse enemies, usually the limits of "what can drop" are better, but the drop-rate for good items is significantly slower. As a side effect of the "more diverse enemies", you often need to focus on a more diverse attack - a single-element sorceress can really slow down in The Pits compared to a dual-element build (that is... assuming you can't get an Infinity for your lightning sorc, because if you can, a lightning sorc will roll along just fine).


    So, if you want to keep with the bosses, sticking with a boring-old Blizzsorc is possibly your best choice. If you're serious about mixing in some area-runs though, a dual-element sorceress is probably the best choice if you can't count on having good equipment. Once you start getting into good equipment (read: Infinity), then a pure Lightning sorc is among the best and most reliable builds you can make.
     
  4. Tuhnu

    Tuhnu IncGamers Member

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    Re: Need some build advice

    Wow, thanks a lot for the info guys! I've been thinking about it (and reading these forums) and I thought I'd just go with the blizzard build and use the meph 'quest-kill' bug, or whatever it's called :p Since it's so fast to level characters in Diablo (compared to WoW anyway) I could just as well make another sorc for area runs since they don't require godlike gear. Thank you :)
     

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