Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

slicksliver

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Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

This is for my (lvl 82) blizz meph glitching mf sorc. Her gear:

Ptopaz'd Shako
Ptopaz's Skullders Ire
30 res Mara's
35 fcr Spirit Monarch
Wizspike (not socketed)
Snowclash
Magefist
35 War travs
2x nagel (29 and 30)

38 Gheeds
17/14 zTorch (for attrib/res... havent gotten a storch yet)
19/12 anni

My resists are all maxed (including my 90 cold res) except fire, which is 53 - but i've got a couple charms to bump that up to 75

So my question: For purely mfing meph (and andy), should I alter any of this gear? Also, what should I socket my wizspike with? - Ist? Ral? or what? Should I take the time to get gull/splendor on switch?

The main things I like about this setup are the 105 fcr breakpoint, and I'd like to keep my maras (gambled it 1st week into this ladder, so I'm attached to it :whistling:). Any opinions welcome
 

Niniux

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

I'd recommend a Gull on switch. Maybe a Rhyme, since it's cheap, for the off-hand. Why waste a Lum if it's just going to be switched to for .05 seconds?

Also, if you're running Hell Meph, I take it you're moating him? Why not switch the Mara's off for a 35% MF amu and Magefists for some Chancies once you get in position?

Edit: For functionality, if you don't like switching weapons, an Ist'd Occulus might be beneficial.
 

Ilumm

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

What i use is:

full tal set(better than almost anything in terms of dmg..i didn't believe it either)
trang oul gloves (for the 105 fcr breakpoint and pois res)
wts
nagelss

This way you get more mf than you curently have and i think even more killing power.

As for change either gul+rhyme or if you are rich blade of ali baba*2ist and 4soc monarch with 4*ist.

Tal armor and tal helm should be socketed with Perfect topaz and tal orb with ist.
 

slicksliver

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

Thanks both of you for the suggestions. I'm gonna see what gear I can get my hands on and then start trying out new combos to see what works the best. Hopefully I can get a tal's armor soon, I like the idea of using full tal's.
 

Leonhart

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

you can use wizspike and spirit in your main hand and prepare a 2-IST alibaba and a 4-IST monarch in your swiched hand. When you are killing merph(or some boss else), the last few seconds before merph dies just press W to switch your current hand to IST ALIBABA & IST MONARCH, then the item drop will be caculated according to your current gear MF.
 

Robdeijn

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

I'd recommend a Gull on switch. Maybe a Rhyme, since it's cheap, for the off-hand. Why waste a Lum if it's just going to be switched to for .05 seconds?

Also, if you're running Hell Meph, I take it you're moating him? Why not switch the Mara's off for a 35% MF amu and Magefists for some Chancies once you get in position?

Edit: For functionality, if you don't like switching weapons, an Ist'd Occulus might be beneficial.
And if you run into problems with council members hydra's with that setup you could use a dwarfstar. I do that and even with crappy fire resist the hydra's don't hurt me.


 

Nullvoid

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

And if you run into problems with council members hydra's with that setup you could use a dwarfstar. I do that and even with crappy fire resist the hydra's don't hurt me.
Yeah spot on. :thumbsup:

I've got -23 fire resist in hell but I can tank damage from the hydras and other sources fairly well thanks to the dwarf star.


 

remixed

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

im using: full tal set, 46 travs, 40 chances, 26 nagel, 9% rare ring with mana, 6%mfsc, malebrega shield(lol)

brings me to like 315MF i kill andy really fast in hell. all my resists are 30-40ish in hell except poison which is -1. kill meph in decent speed just finding games where he is alive(to quest drop him) is a pain.

any opinions on my gear to bring up my resistances and mf? without losin the tals, chances, or travs. btw im meteorb sorc.
 

slicksliver

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

Are you talking a 8 player game that you can kill andy really fast in? Or just when you solo mf? Also if anyone has a good tactic for taking her out with minimal fatality, please share. I'm constantly red potting her...
 

remixed

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

oh, that is solo mf games. i usually clear the room, get her attention and run dropping meteors in timed areas where they will hit her following me, usually 1 or 2 of those then turn and fb her to death. i can usually do runs really fast that way
 

slicksliver

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

Ah k. In 8 player games what I do (i'm blizz), is I tele up to where she is, and then blizz right on her, tele to one of the side walls, wait til she comes towards me then blizz again in the middle of the hall and tele to the opposite wall. That probably sounds a bit confusing, but basically I pen her up in my stacked blizzards, and tele back and forth between the NW and SE (i.e. the walls of the skinny hall). Also, I don't usually bother with killing her minions - I should probably try sometime, but I tend to feel that taking the time to kill them, then going on to Andy, would take to long.


Also - against meph, is it worth my time to spam a left-click at him inbetween blizz (and consequently chug blue pots), or does that really not improve my killing speed by any significant amount?
 

remixed

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

ah i see. im meteorb so its a bit different. i ususally take her to one of the small side room things and run around the boxes while she burns and/or i fireball her there. i only really kill the mobs in her room usually 2 grps of fallen thats it. then i pull her. havent mfed her in 8 player games yet but i have got good stuff so far in single player ones. gores, vamp gaze, 2 nagels, many set items (nats tals aldurs), uniq ammys. been doin it for 3 days now. if it was 8 player game would i get better drops???
 

slicksliver

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

I'm pretty sure the way it works is that she drops more items, so you have an increased chance of getting good stuff (since there's more items falling that could be good)
 

Ilumm

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

Ah k. In 8 player games what I do (i'm blizz), is I tele up to where she is, and then blizz right on her, tele to one of the side walls, wait til she comes towards me then blizz again in the middle of the hall and tele to the opposite wall. That probably sounds a bit confusing, but basically I pen her up in my stacked blizzards, and tele back and forth between the NW and SE (i.e. the walls of the skinny hall). Also, I don't usually bother with killing her minions - I should probably try sometime, but I tend to feel that taking the time to kill them, then going on to Andy, would take to long.


Also - against meph, is it worth my time to spam a left-click at him inbetween blizz (and consequently chug blue pots), or does that really not improve my killing speed by any significant amount?
This is the way to do,but i kill the minions first(about 2-3blizz).

As far as i know this improves kiling speed by about 10% (mathematically,by using ice blast which has bigger dmg you increase kiling by 10-20% but i am surely missing out something).

I'm pretty sure the way it works is that she drops more items, so you have an increased chance of getting good stuff (since there's more items falling that could be good)
More players=more items=better chance for unique/set/etc.


Also check out this thread: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6693555#post6693555

It's me asking about what should a blizz sorc have on it.This works even better on 2dual tree sorcs due to the tal orb. As far as i can see this is the ultimate build(maybe enigma/circle/uber rare amu would be better but that is a lot of hrs).

As soon as i get an UM in my dures on my merc i can tank andy.
I can already tank meph.(with pots both).
I can also do anything else a blizz sorc should do:ancient tunnels/arcane/pindle.

As soon as i get what i want to get on my merc i will tell you how good do i fare on other runes(countess for example) and in getting people through hell.



 
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redground

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

any opinions on my gear to bring up my resistances and mf? without losin the tals, chances, or travs. btw im meteorb sorc.
Sanctuary
3 Socket Shields (Troll Nest is the best)
Ko + Ko + Mal

+20% Faster Hit Recovery
+20% Faster Block Rate
20% Increased Chance of Blocking
+130-160% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+250 Defense vs. Missile
+20 To Dexterity
All Resistances +50-70 (varies)
Magic Damage Reduced By 7
Level 12 Slow Missiles (60 Charges)

You will get max resists even if you get a bad roll, the 20%MF from milabrega isn't better then all the good stuff you get from sanctuary.

if you can´t afford a mal:
Ancient's Pledge
3 Socket Shields
Ral + Ort + Tal

+50% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +43%
Fire Resist +48%
Lightning Resist +48%
Poison Resist +48%
10% Damage Goes To Mana

Another option is use a Spirit Monarch and get a Dwarf Star.


To bump your MF just get a gull and a rhyme on swich.


 

Soulburner

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Re: Need opinions on gear for MF sorc

I'm sure your merc could tank meph if he got a Kelpie Snare...brings em to a crawl.
 
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