Well what if I wana be able to do Hell baal runs? Then what do i need to max and get? And about the skills i dont know the abreveation for the skils so can you type them out?Dacar92 said:It depends on what you want to do with her. Will you run the pits, Baal? If you are just looking to quest and finish the game here is what I would suggest:
all prereqs: 1
Use a might merc from act 2 NM. He will become a second tank and if you are deft enough you will hardly ever be hit.
That is a skeleton build for you. Go for the cold attack first until you reach strafe. The monsters will slow down or freeze and you will be hit less.
Let me know what you think of that.
Here's a quick list of what you need:ZildjianDw said:Im planing on makeing a bow zon im not sure what I need to get and what I need to max out.Can anyone help?Im on useast NL if that will help any on the items that I will need.
This talk about Phys. immunes being big deal seems a bit too much. Can you please explain what area that you are commonly visiting for your exp/mf runs is filled with Phys. immunes? The only PI's that I encounter are an occasional Cow boss in cow level, sometimes a creature in Chaos sanct is also Phy. immune, and in some cases, one of the council members turns out PI as well. So that's about 1 creature/game.XZON said:PI's are definately a problem. The recommendations made just neglected to address the problem. I also don't see the point in strafe and multi. I think mavinas diadem stinks and good dual leech rings are very hard to come by. Maxing penetrate also seems useless. Most good pure bowazons use a demon limb on switch for enchant charges. Takes care of the AR problem and free's up what... 20 skill points.
Leohappy said:Can you please explain what area that you are commonly visiting for your exp/mf runs is filled with Phys. immunes?
I think this place is reason enough.ZildjianDw said:Well what if I wana be able to do Hell baal runs?
Harmony is cool and probably works for you. IMO the elemental damage amounts to just about nothing in hell though. I would rather enchant than have to pump penetrate also.Leohappy said:Demon limb is ofc good for enchant, but I prefer to have Harmony bow on switch or fast running and elemental damage. Vigor sure speeds up all tasks a good deal.
Agreed. ugly as sin. Mods are sweet though.Leohappy said:Andy mask is not bad but many people (incl.me) don't like it cuz it looks ugly...
He wants to do baal runs. you want to know where there are PI's. Baal runs, Pits, arcane sanc. If you want to solo the entire game, there will be plebnty of PI's. Just because you decided to only do flayer runs and a few other area's that do not have PI's does not mean that the original poster wants to run the same areas. I do solo baal runs all the time with my bowazon and find magic arrow to be invaluable.Leohappy said:XZON:
I am not sure what you mean by saying that hell baal runs are the reason to pump Magic arrow. My Faith bowzon (92), with the best gear currently available (Pride, Faith 15, Fortitude) can't do them fast enough in 8pl game. Much less my higher (94) level Windforce zon with the same eq. Monsters are a bit too tough there, and I can't see where Magic arrow kicks in to make the difference.
In public baal runs, it doesn't really matter since your Magic arrow won't help the team effort much anyway (sorcs and palas kill much faster there). Freezing arrow, however, will, since you can turn baal's minions into helpless statues - nice targets for others to shoot with minimum risk (only the pack boss remains unaffected) .
For 1pl private baalys, monsters have much lower HP anyway and even PI's aren't much of a challenge for low level Magic arrow.
Also I have to agree with wookie919 that there is no win-win recipe for making bowzons. One just has to make one and try the skills for himself...
What monster in the Pit can spawn as PI? :S I hope we're playing the same game, cuz I've never seen one in there. Unique monsters in the Pit sometimes spawn as "Stone skin" but never as PI.XZON said:you want to know where there are PI's. Baal runs, Pits, arcane sanc.
I used to say the same thing about PI's and the pit and was corrected. I swore that I never saw one. I was wrong. The superuniques do spawn that way from time to time but it is extremely rare.Leohappy said:What monster in the Pit can spawn as PI? :S I hope we're playing the same game, cuz I've never seen one in there. Unique monsters in the Pit sometimes spawn as "Stone skin" but never as PI.
Arcane sanctuary is one of the areas that I play exactly 3 times with each char - to finish the "Summoner" quest.
To sum up the debate:
In the end we're looking at the possibility that someone (not me) will be playing either repeated Countess runs, or Baal runs with his bowzon, and that's two areas where PI's appear regularly and the increased MA skill might be useful to speed up the killing.
Although I have to say that 8pl Baal runs with a bowzon aren't fast enough, and Countess runs are MUCH faster when done with a Sorc or some character with Enigma teleport.
I can of course thank you for good posts, although what we're debating is almost OT already .XZON said:You have answered at least 2 other posts with your build suggestions in recent months and each time the poster asked how you deal with PI's. Your answer has been the same each time. I only run flayer jungle and a few other area's where there are no PI's. Obviously people who are building bowazons are interested in a solution to PI's yet you answer their posts with your build as if you can solo hell with it. Then, after they ask, you mention that you avoid them. I never would have commented if your original post said: here is my gear and build but I only run ....... so I have not addressed PI's.