need bva guide

[conor rocks]

need bva guide

i need a BvA guide and i was wondering if dual last wish zerkers are good or should i use beast?

 

[Ce Olba]

i need a BvA guide and i was wondering if dual last wish zerkers are good or should i use beast?

Last Wish is _way_ too slow for WW. Use GriefZ+BeastZ.

 

[Uchiha Sasuke]

Why the hell would you use last wish? That thing is worthless for everything IMO.... and why would you use duel last wish? I thought you wanted a bva? =/

GRIEF
SS
ENIGMA
ARREATS (Um'd) or ARREATS (Eth zod'd)
ARACH
DRACS
FCR RINGS
MARAS
TRI RES RARE BOOTS.

Stash gear:
Tgods... wisps... dwarfs.... ravens. <-- Sorb gear
4os monarch with 4 ptopazes
Dungos
Angelic jewel set.
Forti
Widowmaker.... if you want. You're bva so you wouldn't need too much.

Max mastery, bo, ww. 1 pt on all non-weopon masteries and split rest between shout and leap.

 

[Ce Olba]

Why the hell would you use last wish? That thing is worthless for everything IMO.... and why would you use duel last wish? I thought you wanted a bva? =/

GRIEF
SS
ENIGMA
ARREATS (Um'd) or ARREATS (Eth zod'd)
ARACH
DRACS
FCR RINGS

Why the **** would you use fcr rings in pubs? Results in craptastic AR.

MARAS

Mmm wtf? Use a Highlord's goddamit.

Stash gear:
Tgods... wisps... dwarfs.... ravens. <-- Sorb gear

Use Ravens as your default rings. TGod's versus fohers and some tough trappers. Any other sorb is _never_ needed.

4os monarch with 4 ptopazes

NONONO!!!! Use either 2x 60ish LR rings or a 150-180 LR Ba.

Widowmaker.... if you want. You're bva so you wouldn't need too much.

Please beat a teleporting, hammerfield camping Hammerdin without a Widowmaker. You will either die or have godly zerking skills.

Max mastery, bo, ww. 1 pt on all non-weopon masteries and split rest between shout and leap.

No. Leap needs 14 base points. Rest goes to Shout or Iron Skin.

 

[Uchiha Sasuke]

Why the **** would you use fcr rings in pubs? Results in craptastic AR.



Mmm wtf? Use a Highlord's goddamit.



Use Ravens as your default rings. TGod's versus fohers and some tough trappers. Any other sorb is _never_ needed.



NONONO!!!! Use either 2x 60ish LR rings or a 150-180 LR Ba.



Please beat a teleporting, hammerfield camping Hammerdin without a Widowmaker. You will either die or have godly zerking skills.



No. Leap needs 14 base points. Rest goes to Shout or Iron Skin.

Kk... listen to him. =/

 

[jake007]

I'll have to agree with Ce Olba here (calm down!), 20FCR is really all you need to catch most people in public - 40FCR is reserved for the really good players in which you don't see often. It's always best to practise on lower FCR to heighen your reaction. (Not that I recommend 0FCR, though.)

Use Ravens as your default rings. TGod's versus fohers and some tough trappers. Any other sorb is _never_ needed.

A pair of Hotspur (or infernostride, if you think spurs are BM.) is sometimes needed against those VERY good fballers. You shouldn't use the ring slots because they are reserved for mana/AR/FCR which are all very important.

Always have a pair of death's gloves in stash. Poisonmancers are getting much more common these days and you'll certainly see few of them in public. Their poison damage is -NOTHING- to sneeze about.

Aim for a leap level of 22-24 after all skills with you're desired gear. I believe that's the range for a full screen knockback.

NONONO!!!! Use either 2x 60ish LR rings or a 150-180 LR Ba.

Personally I'm using a 45IAS/150%LR berserker axe. It makes most foh'er a walk in the park with some sacrifice in killing speed. A much better choice in public environment, IMHO.

Against the not so good foh'er, you can usually tri-whirl them to death.

 

[Phyrexial]

From what I understand, 60+ light res rings are not available on all realms as well. Or at least in reasonable supply.

 

[Mr Pato]

No. Leap needs 14 base points. Rest goes to Shout or Iron Skin.

Hi, just wondering why 14 base is the number to have.

 

[Ce Olba]

A pair of Hotspur (or infernostride, if you think spurs are BM.) is sometimes needed against those VERY good fballers. You shouldn't use the ring slots because they are reserved for mana/AR/FCR which are all very important.

Hotspurs are _not_ absorb. They have +maximum fire resistance% and +fire resistance%, but nowhere does it say they got absorb. That's why I didn't mention them. JSP'ers say that hotspurs are sorb by default, which is false information.

Always have a pair of death's gloves in stash. Poisonmancers are getting much more common these days and you'll certainly see few of them in public. Their poison damage is -NOTHING- to sneeze about.

I do not know about Ladder, but at least I haven't ran into any good Poisonmancers on NL. The hardest one was a Poison/Summon hybrid abusing Gmerc quite a while ago. I beat the guy by abusing the healing effect of Gmerc.

Aim for a leap level of 22-24 after all skills with you're desired gear. I believe that's the range for a full screen knockback.

22 reaches the corners too. 19 reaches the horizontal and vertical edges of the screen.

Personally I'm using a 45IAS/150%LR berserker axe. It makes most foh'er a walk in the park with some sacrifice in killing speed. A much better choice in public environment, IMHO.

Well, as you probably know, currently I'm inactive and would use a 120 LR armor against fohers. As soon as I get my PC fixed I will get those LR rings.

Against the not so good foh'er, you can usually tri-whirl them to death.

This is pretty true. A strategy that I like to use is to tank them for a while. This usually makes them pretty dumb, as they get bored of the charging around since you do nothing. Then they will most likely just stand still and foh at you. This is when you tele -> triwhirl.

Hi, just wondering why 14 base is the number to have.

Because it's the lowest number of Leap that reaches your screens corners only with your Torch+Anni (aka your lowest +skill setup).

From what I understand, 60+ light res rings are not available on all realms as well. Or at least in reasonable supply.

This is true. However, for people on such realms (asia and east if I'm not totally wrong), They can use 2x Coral rings and switch six of their max/ar/life scs for life/LR. A perfect Coral ring is that "of the apprentice" Why? "of the apprentice" has 10% FCR. And yes, this "coral ring" is a magical one. It's actually a cube recipe. IIRC it can reach 30% LR maximum. Easier you could just use a 180 LR ba that's got at least 35% IAS. This does cripple your damage however.

 

[Thoridian]

Well, as you probably know, currently I'm inactive and would use a 120 LR armor against fohers. As soon as I get my PC fixed I will get those LR rings.

Hrhr werent u against them when i got mine? :> I mean u were like "OMG LOW AR", preety much until i reached 13.5k ar with em

 

[Ce Olba]

Hrhr werent u against them when i got mine? :> I mean u were like "OMG LOW AR", preety much until i reached 13.5k ar with em

I wasn't thinking about Hsarus'. Ever. As for say, versus fohers, those rings are just fine.

 

[SicHalo]

NONONO!!!! Use either 2x 60ish LR rings or a 150-180 LR Ba.

they wont exist on ladder realms+

my i also find trang gloves is better in pub duels although u do lose that 25% ow but the idea in pubs is to kill fast and move on, also it alows for 40 fcr easier without using ur fcr rings so u can use standard ravens + arch and trang and still have 40% fcr, good if ur fcr rings are crap and minimalises gear change.

I was thinking of getting 1 of those light res rings but i allready use like 12x 20/11-10.

i think its an idea to carry a death glove although don't see may psn mancers. or atlest the amu.

 

[Rabbitz]

ignore me.

 

[Ce Olba]

NONONO!!!! Use either 2x 60ish LR rings or a 150-180 LR Ba.

they wont exist on ladder realms+

150-180 LR BAs not on Ladder? If you talk about the rings, yes. That's why I provided an alternative.

my i also find trang gloves is better in pub duels although u do lose that 25% ow but the idea in pubs is to kill fast and move on, also it alows for 40 fcr easier without using ur fcr rings so u can use standard ravens + arch and trang and still have 40% fcr, good if ur fcr rings are crap and minimalises gear change.

I haven't found the 40% fcr to be necessary in pubs anyways. As for the OW comment, most of the time in pubs you will end up dueling semi-1v1 versus any opponent, unless you of course make it so that there are multiple people dueling. If there's a tvt, I 99% of the time use trang gloves, as most of the teams have at least a boner or a sorc.

i think its an idea to carry a death glove although don't see may psn mancers. or atlest the amu.

I take it you mean Iratha's amulet? That's worse than Death's gloves. I myself find antidotes good enough in the rare case of poisonmancer, as it gives you the same amount of PR and also +10% max PR.

 

[SicHalo]

yeah i meant the iraha's amu and the rings. I do carry a death glove but its is a rare case where an opponment is so good u have to change for it.

Im used to using 40% fcr in pubs cuz i see alot of sorcs and necs and vs necs i noticed the extra fcr really helps, even in private duels reaching the 63% fcr bp does make a hell of a difference.

but that is right at most 20% is needed 40% only makes life alot easier and the fact that i can achieve 40% so easy.

Funny saying about semi 1v1s most of the time it always ends up a couple vs me not all the time but most of the time i also find alot of opponments run to town if they are hit with ow, this is also a reason why i preffer the venom enhancement from trang, only vs hammerdin or maybe mele and some Windies i bring out the draculs combined with the duress to get life tap and high CTC Ow dmg.

 

[jake007]

I take it you mean Iratha's amulet? That's worse than Death's gloves. I myself find antidotes good enough in the rare case of poisonmancer, as it gives you the same amount of PR and also +10% max PR.

Never thought of Iratha, that might be a good space saver in place of death's gloves, actually