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need advice on weapons for ubers

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Elyxthaxzus, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. Elyxthaxzus

    Elyxthaxzus Diabloii.Net Member

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    need advice on weapons for ubers

    Well, finally decided to respec my barb to frenzy to try his hand at ubers. His gear setup so far is:

    Arreats Face - ith in socket right now, but replaceable. Have Guilliams Face as backup if needed.
    CoH
    Goblin toes (have War's available, wearing goblins for now-assume either for build)
    Verdungo's
    Steelrends/Draculs (will use my Dracul's for Ubers)
    Raven/Carrion wind rings
    High lord's ammy
    Various Charms for resists, +ar, etc.

    Weapons:
    Currently using EBotD in a CB for WW. I can use this one handed given my choices on other weapons.

    Other options available:
    Grief in Phase Blade (nothing special, 355+ damage or so)
    Doom in Zerker (got this one on a weird trade, have yet to use it)
    Stormlash
    Azurewrath

    Also have a 5soc Zerker available for other RW's. a Death is possible (tho i might be missing a rune, prob can trade for it). second grief perhaps as well, but then I would end up with a grief in PB and a zerker, an odd combo.

    My concern is the combinations available. I've pretty much maxed out my options, so figuring out what is best with what I have. My concern, as you can tell, is the oddball mix of weapon types that could conflict with my mastery choice. Do I stick with sword mastry and equip the grief in the OH and run BotD in MH? or do I run with grief/azurewrath, or make a death in the Zerker and run doom in OH? or do I mix them up and risk the reduction in AR on the off-weapon (such as using BotD in MH, and stormlash in OH, and run sword mastery, hence the lash would suffer for damage and AR).

    My initial thought was stick with Sword mastry and use BotD in MH, grief in OH, and sub in Guilliam's for Arreats to make up for lack of crush blow. My logic is that the extra AR from mastery is more important then the CB from a non mastery off-hand. sucks to lose all the buffs from arreat's for lack of CB, but to get CB from another of my weapons would involve (at least right now) a conflict of masteries. But, if you experienced Uber runners have better ideas, let me know.
     
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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    grief + lawbringer !
    decrep them !
    chop them into pieces !
     
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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    dude I cant thank you enough for having the courage to say what needed to be said... grief is indeed nothing special!! no need at all for grief in ubers, may I recommend ebotdz+edeathz - great combo esp for ubers!!!


     
  4. Elyxthaxzus

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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    Hehe thanks for the replyz guyz :)

    I agree Kronic...I've always been a fan of different weapon styles. Even though my current is a 2h sword, I really miss my mace (it just looks cool on a barb).

    I was very tempted to try that lawbringer shark :D the decrep on that thing is just sick (may still make one for my pally to wear on switch for PI's...though once he hits 85 the azurewrath will take care of that in spades). I was worried about the decrep overshadowing my life tap, which will be paramount to my attempts (HC doesn't leave me with allot of wiggle room).

    Ill have to look at the death too...very tempted to throw one together, just need to find another 5 soc PB to put it in :p got a zerker axe available, but my BotD is a sword. So what the recommendations on weapon type setup? is getting the right mods/RW setup more important then making sure both weapons match your mastery? I have the 5 soc zerker now, I'd have to hunt a 5 so PB down if i wanted to keep with the sword mastery tho.
     
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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    ebotdz is horrible swap that out for beastz. cb and ow mod are gozu for ubers. Also consider fanat adding to edeathz side.


     
  6. RealmOftheWolf

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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    Personally I prefer Grief phase blade + Last wish for Uburs for all the defensive mods and crushing blow needs.

    I normally run Grief + Lawbringer for general PVM

    And always use the weapons that match your mastery since those that dont match will have a harder time hitting and worse damage overall.
     
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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    I agree with sticking with the weapon type for your mastery. I already have the BotD, and it will do fine as a MW. Not as offensive as grief, but very nice general stats. For ubers Ill probably go with LW in OH simply so I don't have to worry about CB and Lifetap.

    I do have a Lawbringer, but it's in a scepter :p (was my pallys). runes are pretty cheap tho, may keep my eyes open for a PB to put it in (keep my speed up, no ED on the RW so no reason to have a high base damage weapon)

    Only downside to Lawbringer is it seriously cuts down on my top damage. grief could keep up, but with my BotD in a Cb right now, my top end is pretty high when im swinging 2h (12k for conc, 11k for Ww right now). This may change tho once i respec Frenzy (haven't done it yet), sicne ill ahve to go with 2 weapons anyways.

    What was your reason for switching over to Lawbringer from Last wish for solo work? is it for the decrep? that may be a good solution, and leave my merc open for swinging an infinity instead of a reapers toll. hard to argue with more auras :D


     
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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    last wish is overrated. i would rather spend lesser on weapons for ubers. i mean there are other weapons which can easily replace last wish haha

    for my own smiter i am using heavens light only =X
     
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    Last wish was perfect for uburs with fade and lifetap.

    My reason was pretty much just for the decrep and worked surprisingly well its a pity it doesnt have much damage on itself but I do kill at roughly the same speed regardless once that Decrepify gets cast.
     
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    makes sense, and I like the idea myself. having the decrep on my OH opens up my merc for another option so i can finally dorp the reapers toll. and the sanct aura is sorta icing :) no more issues with undead PI's :p

    And I know exactly what you mean sharky :) Last wish is an issue of accessability. If you have acess to it, it's an awesome weapon. It has mods that open up choice on your other gear a great deal. But due to its cost, it may not be something that you want to shoot for initially. Last wish means I can keep my Arreats Face instead of haing to go with Guil's, and i can sub in a different set of gloves for the dracs (such as LoH for huge damage increase). still need open wounds, so ill probably have to ninja the gores from my pally.


     
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    Its a great weapon even though the max you will make is like 40 damage in a 15 ed sup. lol.

    My 3 Favourite Combos are
    Grief/Last wish
    Grief/Law Bringer
    Grief/Grief

    In that order.
     
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    I am more or less in the same boat, aside from the fact that I do not have grief but almost an oath Small cresent. I want to have LB in my off hand but i cannot make it in axes. However i am quite sure that i do not really need the damage from LB or am i wrong in this? (as my mastery is axe) Grief is not in reach at the moment as i started like a week ago. Thx for replying.
     
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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    Try Oath Cryptic sword (mal is highest rune) .

    A nice Eth cryptic sword would be nice

    6.5 Frame Frenzy when combined with a phase blade on the first hit when using LoH and Highlords.

    5 frame with level 13 Frenzy when it gets going.,
     
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    how am i going to survive at uubers =) without life leech. I have always sort of skimmer the surface with barb. i usually start new make sorc get in in the 90s range and start gathering gear, when i have everything i usually quit again because it gets boring. I like playing barb and want to use him for nilathak running and the combo of LB and oath seems cheap and...doable you think it is viable. I like to be as efficient as possible, read cheap =). And should i wear the phase LB in MH or OH? Thanks again ppl =)

    ow i wanted to add, why eth cryptic why non conquest, it has better average damage...at the cost 10 speed is cryptic really neccessary?

    ah haha one more question, the LL on LB does that also "[email protected] on the main hand swing?
     
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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    Oath + lawbringer will be a decent combo and will serve you well.

    Okay lets look at this ......
    Phase blade - 25 Str 136 Dex
    Cryptic Sword - 99 Str 109 Dex
    Conquest Sword - 142 Str 112 Dex

    Both would work as long as you use arreats but I prefer the extra speed as I dont want to rely on frenzy to take me all the way. I like a strong start and a stronger finish :p

    The faster weapon always goes on the main hand and in this case its Oath Cryptic/Conquest.


    And No Life leech is not a mod that transfers to both weapons.
     
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    Ok dude, thanks a lot for the info! Ill start hunting for the damn cryptic. Pretty sure i threw one away lately =/ haha and need to find me self some Phase blade but they drop a lot in pits. Thanks again, BAH hate you for the swords but ok it all seems to better. Btw i really hate statting dex, but ok ow and i need a respecc now because of the mastery but ill do that latah i think.
     
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    Re: need advice on weapons for ubers

    a few tips on item finding Goths:

    1) get rid of any MF on you. It decreases your chances of finding white items.

    2) run areas with large amounts of monsters. The pit is very popular (dungeon in act 1 tamoe highlands) due to it dropping ilvl 85+ gear (or some mad level like that). I've also found that with IM gone, the Chaos sanc is a serious playground for barbs. it also drop iirc the highest ilvl for items, and there are tons of boss packs for you to hork once their down. and it has tons of mobs. with more mobs on top of that. plus you get to spank diablo at the end. I like it tons

    I usually will run a hell game and clear the pit, CS, and cows, and finish with baal if im up for it. You'll get tons of white and socketed items that way. And dont' forget that amn + ral + pamethyst will give you a random # of sockets in a normal non-socketed item. it's a crapshoot, but that's where I've gotten my last 4 RW items (2 5soc PB's, a 5 soc eth GP and a 3 soc runesword for my LB). they were all crafted with that recipe.

    the rest the items you gather you can trade. Good socketables go for good prices when trading. You can build up your rune supply that way for making more runewords :)
     
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    Gheeee thanks! When i got rushed through helll (was wearing Doombringer * Lawbringer PB) I found a non socket 13% ed 2 ar ETH Balrog blade. Quickly checked the BP's and it all turned out very well for me. Meaning i would hit the same bp's AND i would be able to wear in two hands if i would even want that! (only thing is that it only turned out to be 280 % so exactly in the middle (240-340 which was a little downer, hope for at least 300% but the damage will not matte THAT much....)

    I am familiar with the pits, thanks for reminding me for recipe, i remember doing this on other ladder season, but forgot about it. Just to make sure, i can do it with ETH, elite items right. Never mind ill just check the website for it.

    Thanks a lot all of you, although i must say, i like lifetab =/ decep is nice but i miss life leech.

    Which brings me to the next point...is it possible to craft a ML/LL ring?

    thanks a lot again people, lovely i feel noob again!
     
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    1. Yes you can socket any item that isnt anything higher than plain white(unsocketed) including eth items.

    2.Blood rings check the Arreat summit

    Magic Ring
    Sol Rune
    Perfect Ruby
    Any Jewel

    Automods
    + (1-5) To Strength
    (1-3)% Life Stolen Per Hit
    +(10-20) To Life
     
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    Will the rings from CS be sufficient (god i am asking a lot) Because i think that is a quite good source for them =)
     

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