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Discussion in 'Paladin' started by aka_spud, Jun 15, 2005.

  1. aka_spud

    aka_spud IncGamers Member

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    need advice on this build

    I just found an eth headstriker and its just too cool not to build a guy around do i was thinking about a max damage zeal/fanat guy. I'd throw rends, fort and phoenix on him but i dont make many pallys so heres what i got so far. i wanna use those 4 items (eth uped zoded headstriker, rends, phoenix shield, and fort armor) and say 20 fanatacism, 20 sacrifice, 20 holy shield, 20 zeal (for ar), and dump the rest into defiance. what other items should i use? does this build sound viable at all (for pvp or pvm?) or am i just wasting my time without itd or huge ar? i know there was a thread last month about eth headstriker but i read it and its not really what im looking for. so what do ya think? i know you have an opinion
     
  2. Weltkriegpally

    Weltkriegpally IncGamers Member

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    its viable alright. for pvp, remember that you need max dr (50 percent), its going to require a coa ber ber (not really any other choices). you need 60 ias with a headstriker for max fpa. gloves is 20.....

    it gives massive deadly strike all on its own, so travs would be better for damage or use ik boots for ar/life/frw. no eth effect, so massive ar is needed. pretty much screams angelics. Point is, I wouldn't use the phoenix. It gives nice damage, no doubt about it, but you will suffer from a lack of sockets for ias and dr, not to mention the absurd block/defense penalty. stormshield frees up sockets for ias/ar jewels (I would go for more attack rating than damage..you will hit pretty hard without anything else). rends is possible, but there are better options..like 20 ias gloves with stats.

    you get the idea, I think. read stoutwoods zealot guide. Its great and gives a lot of useful information.

    --welt
     
  3. vdzele

    vdzele IncGamers Member

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    Paladin level 90 is using an Eth Upd zod’d Headstriker. Weapon damage will be then 137-287. His strength is 200. He is also a zealot using these skills: Fanaticism lvl 20 (+373% damage); zeal lvl 20 (+96% damage); sacrifice as a synergy to zeal lvl 20 (+240% damage). All other modifiers from his gear are ignored.

    Minimum Damage = (Weapon Minimum Damage + (+x To Minimum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Minimum Damage = (137 + 0) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100 +)
    Minimum Damage = 137 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Minimum Damage = 137 x 10.09
    Minimum Damage = 1382

    Maximum Damage = (Weapon Maximum Damage + (+x To Maximum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x % Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Maximum Damage = (287 + 0) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100)
    Maximum Damage = 287 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Maximum Damage = 287 x 10.09
    Maximum Damage = 2895

    Average damage = (1382 + 2895) / 2 = 2138

    Damage during time. Let’s say he is attacking for 10 seconds a monster and every attack is successful. Because it has a double damage modifier we have to put this in the following equation. Number of attacks in 1 second for a Conquest Sword [0]; Fanaticism lvl 20 and Zeal lvl 20 will be 4.1 attacks per second

    Total damage = 2 x 2138 [damage] x 10 [seconds] x 4.1 [attacks / seconds] = 175316

    Paladin level 90 is using Death RW in an Eth Ettin axe (+350% ED). Weapon damage will be then 220-445. His strength is 200. He is also a zealot using these skills: Fanaticism lvl 20 (+373% damage); zeal lvl 20 (+96% damage); sacrifice as a synergy to zeal lvl 20 (+240% damage). All other modifiers from his gear are ignored.

    Minimum Damage = (Weapon Minimum Damage + (+x To Minimum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Minimum Damage = (220 + 0) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100)
    Minimum Damage = 220 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Minimum Damage = 220 x 10.09
    Minimum Damage = 2219

    Maximum Damage = (Weapon Maximum Damage + (+x To Maximum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x % Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Maximum Damage = (445 + 0) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100)
    Maximum Damage = 445 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Maximum Damage = 445 x 10.09
    Maximum Damage = 4490

    Average damage = (2219 + 4490) / 2 = 3354

    Damage during time. Let’s say he is attacking for 10 seconds a monster and every attack is successful. Because it has 45% chance of double damage (for level 90) modifier; 4.5 of his attacks will deliver double damage and 5.5 regular. Number of attacks in 1 second for a Ettin axe [10]; Fanaticism lvl 20 and Zeal lvl 20 will be 4.1 attacks per second. Crushing Blow is ignored !!!

    Total damage = 2 x 3354 [damage] x 10 [seconds] x 0.45 x 4.1 [attacks / seconds] + 3354 [damage] x 10 [seconds] x 0.55 x 4.1 [attacks / seconds]
    Total damage = 123762 + 75632
    Total damage = 199394

    Paladin level 90 is using Grief RW in an Ettin axe (+340 damage; +30% IAS). Weapon damage will be then 33-66. His strength is 200. He is also a zealot using these skills: Fanaticism lvl 20 (+373% damage); zeal lvl 20 (+96% damage); sacrifice as a synergy to zeal lvl 20 (+240% damage). All other modifiers from his gear are ignored.

    Minimum Damage = (Weapon Minimum Damage + (+x To Minimum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x% Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Minimum Damage = (33 + 340) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100)
    Minimum Damage = 373 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Minimum Damage = 373 x 10.09
    Minimum Damage = 3763

    Maximum Damage = (Weapon Maximum Damage + (+x To Maximum Damage)) * (1 + StatBonus + (+x % Enhanced Damage) / 100)) * Modifier
    Maximum Damage = (66 + 340) x (1 + 200 / 100 + 96 / 100 + 240 / 100 + 373 / 100)
    Maximum Damage = 406 x (1 + 2 + 0.96 + 2.4 + 3.73)
    Maximum Damage = 406 x 10.09
    Maximum Damage = 4096

    Average damage = (3763 + 4096) / 2 = 3929

    Damage during time. Let’s say he is attacking for 10 seconds a monster and every attack is successful. Because it has 20% chance of double damage modifier; 2.0 of his attacks will deliver double damage and 8.0 regular. Number of attacks in 1 second for an Ettin axe [10]; Fanaticism lvl 20; Zeal lvl 20 and 30% IAS will be 5 attacks per second.

    Total damage = 2 x 3929 [damage] x 10 [seconds] x 0.2 x 5 [attacks / seconds] + 3929 [damage] x 10 [seconds] x 0.8 x 5 [attacks / seconds]
    Total damage = 78580 + 157160
    Total damage = 235740

    I see many people have runes that are wasted for no good reasons. I hope you can see what’s better from these calculations. Suggestions

    For PvM: Skills - max holy shield and the rest in vengeance for physical immunes. Weapons – Stormlash, Grief and Death RW (in this order)

    For PvP: Skills – max holy shield and the rest in defiance. Weapon – Grief RW (best choice superior phase blade)
     
  4. jordy666

    jordy666 IncGamers Member

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    style>dmg

    a eth white sword is just secksie.
    although u need 60 ias for 4 fpa.

    Gear:
    ED/30 Coa (15%Dr)
    Eth zod g-bane
    Eth zod Headstriker
    IK gloves
    Ed/ias stormshield
    2* Angelic Ring
    Angelic Ammy
    War tracs
    IK belt

    Chams:
    10x 120 ar/life gc's
    9x3.20.20 and a 20 anni

    Totals:
    lvl 85
    around 4.1k Damage @127%DS !!
    2Xk Ar
    2XXX Life no bo.
    2Xk Defense

    or ..

    -jordy :king:
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal IncGamers Member

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    Interesting calculations!

    But wouldn't a Grief PB be best for PVM? Or Stormlash wins over it cause of the static it triggers when attacking monster around you?

    For PVM the pally build using Death runeword can achive easily 100% Cb and 100% DS...Ofc the problem with the death runeword is the lack of IAS...

    /Dec
     
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    In this thread I explained why
     
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    Uber style points on the eth Headstriker. Do it.
     
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    Decebal IncGamers Member

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    OK!

    I understand now and your points are true! Hehehe a unique weapon that beats lots of runewords for PvM :D Nice too see that!

    /Dec
     
  9. IMCanadian

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    You can test it on open with a friend who also has a legit char. That way u know the dmg, the perfect stats, defence ect... I do it it works
     
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    Decebal IncGamers Member

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    "The weapon that deals most damage and has the best killing speed decides the outcome of battles not the stylish weapon arsenal and a fancy dress..." :D :D :D

    Authour unknown

    /Dec
     
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    Leohappy IncGamers Member

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    ... said Luke Skywalker to Lord Vader. :rolleyes:
     

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