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  1. Drosselmeier

    Drosselmeier IncGamers Member

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    Nader to run.

    Ralph Nader, the consumer advocate who ran for president in 2000 as a Green Party candidate, will enter the 2004 race for the White House as an independent candidate, advisers told Fox News on Friday.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,112049,00.html

    Not terribly surprising.
     
  2. Ash Housewares

    Ash Housewares IncGamers Member

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    I'm terribly surprised
     
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    Vote stealing bastard. Bush wins. Bush wins!
     
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    dantose IncGamers Member

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    Well, now I have someone to vote for.
     
  5. Drosselmeier

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    That´s what I would say too, if I was allowed to vote.

    I have a hard time getting enthusiastic about Two-face Kerry, just like many americans on the left. If Kerry does indeed win the nomination the greens will hopefully push him to the left so as not to loose a lot of votes to Nader.

    I think this might be a good thing for the green voters even if they don´t have a chance in hell of getting their man anywhere.

    Bush or Kerry in 2004. Either way you´re BONED!

    EDIT:

    Hehe... so, I went back and actually read the article I posted (Yeah... I suck... but I was in a hurry to buy tobacco and coffee so I only had time to read the heading). Seems he´s running as an independent. I looked into the GP a bit and it seems they are looking for a candidate to run themselves, so Nader probably won´t be as influential as I first thought.

    Let´s hear from the greens here. Would you vote for a party man like David Cobb or would you support an independant Nader?
     
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    What's Nader's stance on fire-arms?
     
  7. Drosselmeier

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    I think I will describe the coming election as I heard las election described.

    The race between bush and bush lite
     
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    I'm pretty much with Dross on this one. I don't know how I can stand another four years of W's policy, but flip-flop Kerry isn't the answer either. I need to look into the third parties. This is the first prez election in which I can vote :)
     
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    Ugh. I don't suppose Kerry has a better gun stance. Well I'm damn sure not voting for Bush. Ugh.
     
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    Every vote for Nader is a vote for Bush.

    Most Nader voters wouldn't vote for Bush if Nader didn't nun. They'd vote for Kerry or wouldn't vote at all.

    I haven't made a final decision between Bush and Kerry yet :scratch: , but I leaning ever so slightly toward Bush.

    So I guess I'm happy Nader is running. :uhhuh:
     
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    http://www.counterpunch.org/schulte02102004.html

    http://slate.msn.com/id/2088214/

    http://www.propagandamatrix.com/tshirtvotesmall2.JPG

    "Treehouse of Horror VII"

    :lol:
     
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    dantose IncGamers Member

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    actually, every vot for nader is a vote against being pidgeon holed into voting for only one of two canidates from parties that are rapidly losing meaningful distinction in my eyes.

    And, every vote for nader is a vote for nader
     
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    Make a mental note of this post.

    In october, Nader will withdraw from the race.

    Once he´s brought attention to the issues he feels need attention and rallied a lot of people who are unhappy with the way the election seems to be heading, he will back down. He will leave the race in a totally different state than it was when he entered it and he will leave a big group of voters mobilized to cast their vote for whoever he endorses.

    You might not be able to vote for Nader per se, but you will able to cast a vote in the direction of his policy anyway.
     
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    dantose; Idealistically, yes. Realistically, as discussed above.

    Dross; Very insightful.
     
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    Just remember though, if you don't vote for someone else, you can't say anything when one of the main two jackasses gets elected.
     
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    It is the lesser of two evils, sometimes.

    Which is worse? Voting for a jackass or not voting at all. some folks say, "They are all idiots, screw it!"
     
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    See, you're doing it right now. You're forgetting that there's another option. Vote for somebody else!
     
  20. dantose

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    I would also like to remind everyone that the main two parties change from time to time. I might vote on the Whig ticket though. I see the Dems giving way to another party within my lifetime. I would love nothing more than to see a third party canidate take a state or two even if he doesn't win. voting still sends a message.
     

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