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My Take on Frenzy Barb

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by Deciett, Apr 9, 2005.

  1. Deciett

    Deciett Banned

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    My Take on Frenzy Barb

    My first build... Just a general opinion.

    Stats- Strength- Plenty, affects damage and allows use of eqpt.
    Dexterity- Less than strength, Mostly eqpt, but also AR
    Vitality - Rest here
    Energy - NONE, get a mana drain item.

    SKill Breakdown: 1xBash, Double Throw, Shout (Prereqs for frenzy and syn.)
    20x Mastery of your choice, must be either Axe Sword or
    Mace mastery. I'd go with Axes or Swords.
    20x Iron Skin, helps your defence
    20x Double Swing (early skill, prerq. for Frenzy, Synergy for
    Frenzy
    20x Taunt, useful on bosses (minions) and ranged attackers,
    Synergy for Frenzy
    1-10+ Natural Resistance, helps push over hell resistance
    Dont flame me yet. Somebody's gonna say "Why not put points in Berserk?" because, most monsters later on are magic immune or resistant, and as difficulty goes up, monsters get more resists and immunes. Better to resist their attacks better.
    With this build I reccomend:
    ...:::Rich People:::...
    2x Eth BoTD Zerkers -or- 2x Crescant Moon Zerkers (Axe)
    2x Kingslayer Cryptic Swords -or- 2x Rare Phase Blades (w/ lots of ED/IAS)
    Stone (Shael Um Pul Lum) Boneweave (BoTD helps here) -or- IK's
    Arreat's Face (+30 res, +2 barb lvls, +2 Comb lvls)
    Verdungo's
    Gore Riders (CB and Open Wounds are good,upped later)
    Lava Gouts (IAS, Fire Resist, Enchant on Striking, upped later)
    2x Katho's -or 1x Katho's 1x RF
    1x Mara's (+25 or better), or Good rare amulet
    3x Bcomb Lifers (you get 20 life for every 5 vita)
    7x Bcomb FHR (u need it, trust me)
    9x 5/5 (+5 res all/5% FR/W)
    1x Anni

    ..::poor People::..
    2x 6o Zerkers w/ 6x (12x total) 30/15's (Jewel, 30% ED, 15% IAS)
    2x 4o Cryptic LS w/ 4x (8x total) 30/15's ( /\ )
    Silks of the Victor (upped) w/ 1x 30/15
    Rare Barbarian Helmet with VERY good res/skills
    Verdungo's -or- IK belt
    Gore Riders (upped later)
    Lava Gouts (upped later)
    2x Rare rings w/ CBF/Skills/Life
    1x Mara's (20+) -or- good rare amulet
    5x Bcomb lifers (you'll need more strength)
    3x Bcomb FHR
    2x Bcomb Mana Steal
    9x 5/5 (see /\ "Rich people")
    1x Anni -or- 5/5

    well, there ya go. Any input would be nice.
     
  2. Doll Call

    Doll Call IncGamers Member

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    :confused:

    there are a few problems here:

    you have no points in frenzy?

    and no points in battle orders?

    and maxed iron skin... instead of shout?

    and unless you dont plan on pvming you need it least one point into berserk.

    heres a frenzy build:
    20 frenzy
    1-20 taunt (work on this skill last)
    20 double swing
    20 battle orders
    20 weapon mastery
    1 shout
    1 iron skin
    1 increased speed
    1 natural resistance
    blah blah pre reqs.

    and barb combat gcs dont do anything for frenzy... give you like a couple of damage. 3/1x/1x Or 3/20/20 charms are what a barbie needs.

    for gloves you *forgot* to mention dracul's grasp (which make frenzy impossible to kill pretty much in PvM), and LOH.
    amulet = highlords wrath/classic duped ammy/maras/angelics.
    rings = ravens/angelics
    armor = upped shaft/enigma/levi/fortitude/coh
    weapons = grief + beast/botd + beast/doom + beast/
    last wish, and death also arent bad considering.
     
  3. Deciett

    Deciett Banned

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    *Slams forehead on the desk* OOOPPSS!!!
    thx for the item suggestions, i guess i was a little out of it yesterday...
    OT: what eqpt would i need for a WW Polearm?

    Already have:

    IK - Helm ('UmUm'), Armor (1x 30/15), Belt, Gloves, Boots
    Bonehew (2x 30/15) (< Better suggestion PLZ!!! o_O)
    2x Manalds
    1x Mara's
    (Charms... blah blah blah...)

    Skillz

    20x Polearm mastery
    20x WW
    20x Iron Skin (<?)
    20x Natural Resistance (<?)
    Warcrys
    prereqs
     
  4. skygoneblue

    skygoneblue IncGamers Member

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    I think an Etheral Breath of the Dying Great Poleaxe would be a good bet. But, that was obvious.

    NEVER put more than one point into Natural Resist; it's a total waste.
     
  5. Doll Call

    Doll Call IncGamers Member

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    1-5 into natural resist...
    max shout instead of iron skin, max battle orders too...
    for polearms BOTDs are the shizzy... doom isnt a bad customer either.
     
  6. Hrus

    Hrus IncGamers Member

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    My opinions:

    Not many monsters are magic immune. It seems like you mixed up the magic (the type Berserk, Bone Spear and Bone Spirit deal) and elemental (fire, cold, lightning) You need some non-physical attack as a backup for physical immunes.

    Kingslayer - it's a mistake isn't it? Why Kingslayer?
    Crescent Moon? Stormlash is better. Stormlash / Shaefer's is awesome combo.
    Good one is also Beast (fanaticism) + Shaefer's/BOTD

    I play single player only, but the 30/15 jewels are almost as rare as 40/15. If I had 12 of them, i wouldn't call myself poor :). But maybe there are lot of dupes of these on BNet, I have no idea. (Strange, why would someone dupe a 30/15 if he could dupe 40/15?)

    EDIT: The off-hand weapon IAS doesn't count for Frenzy attack speed. It's useless to have IAS on both weapons.

    Doll call has nice skills selection.
    My would be:
    15 Mastery
    20 Double Swing
    20 Frenzy
    20 BO
    5+ taunt
    10 War Cry
    (very defensive, good for poor players)

    OR
    15 Mastery
    15+ Double Swing
    20 Frenzy
    20 BO
    15 Shout
    (defense route)
     
  7. sorcyone

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    Just a small note - Taunt does not work on Bosses or Champions etc. so if not for the synergy it would be only be worth 1 point.
     

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