My problem with party size.

[Lucrien]

My problem with party size.

I'm sure a lot of these threads have been posted already, but I haven't seen any on the first page so I think I'm ok.

I think the 5-6 member party size has its benefits like getting people to work together but it also screws with other aspects of the game.The other aspects of the game I'm talking about are the most important part of Diablo 2 IMO.

• PvP
• Magic Finding
• Trade.

If you limit the party size you limit the variety of players you want to have in certain games like PvP games or trade games where it gets stale fast with limited amounts of people.

Also with magic find as the games get harder with more people it increases the chances of better items dropping. I know most people go into full games and magic find on their own killing certain bosses or clearing areas hoping the full game will up their chances of getting a better item.

What if magic find is still the same in Diablo 3 and the party size is 5-6? Its going to be harder to go off on our own without people getting mad at you just because of the fact that there is so little people trying to clear a full game difficulty content and you don't want to join their party. Just seems like a lot of unecisary BS to me.

People love variety so give them a variety of people they can play with. Don't limit it.

 

[Dawnmaster]

Re: My problem with party size.

And what if magic find is unaffected by party size in D3?

PvP is usually one on one, so size doesn't matter here? At the very best, I've never seen more than 4-5 people in a single pvp game.

And doesn't a smaller party size require more thought on the playing together? Smaller size would mean smaller leeching, which would require people to play more decently.

You could ask these, and a hundred more questions, speculate and discuss, but I'd just wait till the darn bugger comes out, and then be pleasantly suprised with what whatever they present us :thumbup:

 

[Lucrien]

Re: My problem with party size.

I'm not saying magic find is affected at all. The only thing I think is affected are the players reactions and finding groups.

Say Diablo 2 had 5-6 people and you wanted to level a new character. You go look for a rush group which are semi hard to find if you don't know anyone who can rush you. There would only be 4 spots open even if you find a game and those usually fill up fast. That means you'll have to find more high level people who go out of their way to rush you as opposed to fitting more low levels in one game.

Also about the magic find its just going to be more of a burden on your 4 person group when you have one person in the group going off on their own magic finding. It would lessen the burden by having more people in the game who can actually help you out. And on the magic finders behalf if there were more than 5 people allowed in the game it would reduce the BS you get for coming in the game and MFing instead of helping the other 4 people in the game.

I usually find full pvp games all the time, and I can honestly say dueling the same person over and over gets really boring. Having more people in the game reduces that. Makes it more fun too.

I agree with you about how we should just let it come out and ask questions later but wheres the fun in that?

 

[raveharu]

Re: My problem with party size.

I read your wall of text but I could not understand what are you trying to say.
Firstly, you prefer bigger or smaller party size

 

[Dawnmaster]

Re: My problem with party size.

I agree with you about how we should just let it come out and ask questions later but wheres the fun in that?

A little philosophy of mine:

"What's the meaning of life?

There is no specific goal to life, life originated by chance and order of natural law.

But, one can set their own goals in life, and it is usually not as important as reaching the goal, as to what happens on the road to the goal, the experience you gain from those events, is the true meaning of life."

So, while you can speculate all you want, either, your expectations of D3 will be too high and you will most likely be dissappointed, or, you let it suprise you, expect low or nothing at all, and always be pleasantly suprised when it first dazzles you!

 

[Akse]

Re: My problem with party size.

I guess you meant the game size? Imo party size is fine as 5 but not over that.. 8 player parties in d2 are a mess and boring.

What I would want is 5 player party cap and maybe 10-15 player game cap. Depends how they design the areas, if we have lots of areas at the end game, where we can get equal rewards.. then we could have several 5player parties at there. If it's like D2 that we only have like 1 area to hang around.. then we don't want more than 10 players / game.

They shouldn't make 1 area "the best" place.. there should be several areas in the end game that we can go to, all of them should be equally interesting also

 

[akboy]

Re: My problem with party size.

The problem with your argument is that you're assuming PvP, magic find and trading will be the same in D3 as it was in D2. But Blizzard has already confirmed they're changing all three of those aspects of the game. You can't know the aspects will be a problem because you don't know enough about them.

 

[KillaMike]

Re: My problem with party size.

The problem with your argument is that you're assuming PvP, magic find and trading will be the same in D3 as it was in D2. But Blizzard has already confirmed they're changing all three of those aspects of the game. You can't know the aspects will be a problem because you don't know enough about them.

totally agree, and dont forget that they already said 4 people per party ( look way back on this forum )

imo, dead thread, any way, i am out, but i will keep my eye on it

Mike

 

[Elly]

Re: My problem with party size.

If you limit the party size you limit the variety of players you want to have in certain games like PvP games or trade games where it gets stale fast with limited amounts of people.

There's going to be special PvP and dueling games/arenas. No specifics have been revealed however. And anyone joining PvM games are automatically in the same party.

 

[In the name of Zod]

Re: My problem with party size.

Its understandable that going from 8 to 5 players per game seems like a step backward to some people. However imo probably one of the biggest issues with large parties is having monsters to kill for the 6th, 7th and 8th players. To give these extra players something to kill it almost becomes mandatory to have mulit-immune monsters and these specialist synergy systems that force players to have characters that can only take on fractions of the available monsters.

So to me, having a smaller max party size translates into a game design that will allow me to build characters that can kill more monsters single handedly. Which btw is fantasic for single players