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My Noobie reasoning for C/C assa

Discussion in 'Assassin' started by Indecisive, Apr 13, 2008.

  1. Indecisive

    Indecisive IncGamers Member

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    My Noobie reasoning for C/C assa

    Ok, I have created a Claw/Claw assa, without any real thought as to what skills I should distribute how to distribute stats. I just wanted to try it out. When I have read this forum and think about what I need exactly, I come to the following conclusions.

    I need:

    1. Resistance: - I am planning on using fade so I don't need to use much equipment with resistance bonuses.
    2. Hit recovery: 48 FHR or 86 FHR or 200 FHR for 5, 4 resp. 3 hit recovery frames.
    3. IAS: According to this info we use the formula
      EIAS = skill_IAS - WSM + (120*equip_IAS)/(120+equip_IAS)
      WSM = weapon speed. For example the jade talon has -10 WSM, and Bartuc's claw has -30 WSM.
      The skill_IAS comes from BoS and fanaticm.
      The equip_IAS is the IAS that you see on items. Natalyas claw has 40 equip_IAS for example and the Highlord’s wrath has 20 equip_IAS, etc.
      The less frame attacks the better. There are 3 types of attacks that I am planning on using with my C/C assa. First we have the slowest attack, which is Dragon claw finishing move: EIAS table for Dragon claw. Secondly we have Claw Class Weapons Using Tiger Strike, Cobra Strike, and Phoenix Strike. And third Dual Claw using Normal Attack
      If I use Bartuc's as primary weapon, we start with -30 WSM. The WSM of the secondary claw is not taken into account if I understand correctly (unless you want to take advantage of a bug: buggy IAS).
      The third attack is rarely used, and needs the least number of equip_IAS to reach the least frames per attacks (fpa). What I need to decide is whether I need 91 EIAS to get the fastest dragon claw, 76 to get the next fastest dragonclaw or 70 EIAS to get the fastest chargeup frame. I can subtract these numbers with 30 since I use a Bartuc's claw. Converted to equip_IAS, that leaves me with 125, 75 or 60 equip_IAS respectively.

      125 equip_IAS is not worth the effort to get from items, since I will sacrifice too much other good stuff in order to obtain it.
      75 equip_IAS shouldn't be too much of a problem to obtain from items. Example: Natalya's Suwyah (40 IAS), highlords wrath (20 IAS) and a 15 IAS jewel.
      60 equip_IAS: I don't need to put a 15 IAS jewel in any item.
    4. To-hit: With Natalya’s Suwyah I can hit everything. And this claw has other some nice bonuses, for example 40 equip_IAS and 200% extra damage vs demons or undead.
    5. Dealing physical damage: Upped Bartuc's, possibly socketed with an Ohm rune (50 ed) or a 40 ed jewel for more damage. The chargeup skill Tiger Strike also comes to mind. The drawback is that I will need to deal with monsters 1 by 1 using this skill.
    6. How to kill monsters faster: I just stack items with crushing blow percentage, open wounds etc. Though, I think a kicker who deals more blows per second is better at taking advantage of these effects.

    Now that I have some numbers to go for, I'm making an Excel sheet with different items from Arreat summit, so I can find out faster what items I can use. Does anyone have an already existing spreadsheet with this information so that I don't have to go through with this manually?

    Feel free to comment my reasoning too. I know that I must have forgot to take many factors into account.
     
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    Re: My Noobie reasoning for C/C assa

    Not sure if you've thought about wanting to teleport (with Enigma runeword), if so you'll be wanting some sources of FCR as well.
     
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    Re: My Noobie reasoning for C/C assa

    86 FHR is reachable with the 30 FHR from Bartuc's and 10 FHR from Verdungo's Coil - if you plan on using it, combined with some sks with FHR.
    In PVM, I would go for 48 FHR though.
     
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    Re: My Noobie reasoning for C/C assa

    No, I was not planning on using Enigma for this assassin.

    Yeah, perhaps 1 frame difference is not that much.

    I think I calculated wrong above. The WSM should be the average of the two claws when using dragon claw and chargeup, right?
     
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    Re: My Noobie reasoning for C/C assa

    Your PM box is full.
     

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