my assassin

druidkid9

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my assassin

hi all


i am thinking of making a new assaissn just want to now if my skills would be a good build

20 death sentry
20 dragon talon i think the one a lvl 6 u attack twise
20 claw mastery
20 phinex strike

i am going to use 2 bartucs not shore about what else to wear. do u think my build is ok????? :thumbsup:
 

Garant

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Looks cool - Death Sentry is really useful throughout the game even without synergies.

I would probably halve the number of points into Claw mastery, though, as you won't really need the additional boost and the chances of a critical hit don't rise greatly between 10 and 20 (17% to 21%).

Likewise you can probably shave a few point sof Dragon Talon. I'd put the points saved into Phoenix Strike synergies.

Let us know how it goes - I haven't seen too many MA/Trap hybrids and I'd love to know how it works out.
 

Sharakorr

Banned
i suggest that if you want to build a martial art sin, stick to the martial arts becuase i don't think the traps do too well without their synergies. Don't forget to use shadowmaster,BOS and or fade as well, their immensely helpful

edit: i know some people say to have two claws and you say you want them yourself, but i find that a high dmg claw and a shield works fine as well
 

Garant

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Claw/Claw looks better but Claw/Shield works really well as Assassins have fast block animations and so tends not to get locked up. Trappers look great with shields because they look like they are sheltering behind them when casting.

Death Sentry is the only trap that you can use through the game without synergies - for the corpse explosion, not the lightning damage. At 20 the range of CE is good (over 9 yards I think). It's not going to mow down Hell monsters by the score but it is useful as a secondary attack and to help clear mobs (always a problem I have with assassins but that might just be me).
 

Uzziah

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Pick a synergy for phoenix strike. Since its a main skill you will need it to be doing damage. I would suggest that you use either fist of fire or Claws of thunder as your synergy. Lightning may be the best way to go since your main use for the Death Sentry will be corpse explosion (1/2 fire 1/2 physical).

Also why not throw a few more points into fire blast to increase the number of shots Death Sentry has. I would atleast take fireblast to 6 or 9 hard skill points. for 7-8 shots per casting.
 

jiansonz

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(My comments are aimed at 1.10, so if you use another version, much in here is wrong)

I think you need to give us more details. What merc are you planning to have? What would you want to use in the weapon switch, etc?



Maxed Death Sentry seems a little overkill. You don´t really need that much range. Instead, pump Fire Blast a bit (at least so you get one more shot from the Death Sentries).

A dual claw assassin is a bit fragile and you don´t list any crowd control at all (shadow, Cloak of Shadows, Mind Blast) other than possibly the cold bolts from Phoenix Strike. A couple of points in Weapon Block may be needed to survive better without a shield.

If you want massive physical damage against a single target (as it seems you do, with maxed Claw Mastery and Dragon Claw), go with Dragon Talon instead of Dragon Claw. Get some boots of a high-end elite type for massive kicking damage. Any weapon you equip in the left slot will transfer most effects (life/mana steal, slowing, Crushing Blow, etc.) to the kicks. Even elemental damage from the weapon gets transferrered to the kicks, don´t believe the Lying Character Screen™.

Instead, if you want massive elemental damage (which your maxed Phoenix Strike suggests) it is common to pump at least one of Phoenix Strike´s synergies.

Also, remember that the end game is just a small part of a character´s career. It is the journey through the game that is important (it is for me, anyway).
 

Kremtok

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I would also suggest investing in Tiger Strike (I maxed it). That was my Assassin's big damage dealer all the way through Hell. I'd use Phoenix Strike to drop a Meteor or to freeze everything with a Frozen Orb, then hack away with Tiger Strike. If you are sure you want to use Bartuc's, they can work very well for you. I used a pair all the way up to Act V Hell, and they worked just fine. If you have the runes, you might should upgrade at least one of them, though. I also used Dragon Talon as my finishing skill, and it worked out well for me. Most would argue against it, however.

As for your skills, I think maxing Claw Mastery is a good idea, if only for the passive AR boost. Perhaps maxing Death Sentry is a bit excessive, however. It's really one of those one-point wonders, as far as I'm concerned. You definetly need to invest one point (and only one point!) each into Weapon Block, Shadow Master, Fade, and Burst of Speed. You really can't do without those skills! And finally, I will agree with the others who suggested using a synergy with Phoenix Strike. The only thing about that skill is that it's very hard to time with a dual-claw Assassin. Therefore, I would stay away from the Lightning release on the second charge, and go instead for synergizing with either the Fire or Cold on the first or third charge.

Quick refrence:

20 Claw Mastery
20 Tiger Strike
20 Dragon Talon (or other finisher)
20 Phoenix Strike
10 (Phoenix Strike Fire or Cold Synergy)
1 Weapon Block
1 Burst of Speed
1 Fade
1 Shadow Master
 

FrolfFreak

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Two more 1-point wonders worth mentioning: Cloak of Shadows and Mindblast. Both provide invaluable crowd-control skills for the assassin, who's a bit on the fragile side. Cloak of shadows blinds all enemies on the screen so they can't see you (and therefore can't hit you), and mindblast stuns everyone in an area, knocks them back, and has a chance to convert them to fight for you as well.

-FF
 

Fafner

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Kremtok said:
Quick refrence:

20 Claw Mastery
20 Tiger Strike
20 Dragon Talon (or other finisher)
20 Phoenix Strike
10 (Phoenix Strike Fire or Cold Synergy)
1 Weapon Block
1 Burst of Speed
1 Fade
1 Shadow Master
I think TS pairs nicely with Dtail, not Dtalon, Dtalon is stand alone, and can be used with traps tree...

MA/TS

20 Tiger S
20 Dtail

now you have options...PS or traps, PS will be stronger and with traps you'd need 60 more points, leaving little room for one pt. wonders which there are a lot of

with PS the build would be

20 TS
20 Dtail
20 PS
20 BoI or CoT (Dtail has fire damage)
1 pt wonders = BoS, Fade, CoS, CM, WB, SM, MB and get a claw with +1 DS (4 pts is hard for me to justify...but DS is a life saver)

Hybrid/Trapper

18-20 Dtalon
20 LS
20 DS
20 synergy
1 pt wonders...same as above, put extra points into trap or SM or which ever skill you'd like higher (Fade, WB)

This build needs good CB, and can be obtained easily from rune words Strength and Black, and Rattlecage, Guillaumes Face,
It is also desirable for either kicker build to have access to Gore Riders, Shadow Dancers, or just plain old Myrmidon Greaves (shopped at Hell Anya, or upgraded Rare Greaves or War Boots). This build needs less +skills than the MA one, but 2 Bartucs is good enough for both to finish Hell.

DC/MA (kind of your original one)

20 DC
20 CM
20 Venom
20 SM
1 DS (you need it with this build, I do believe, its your only crowd control)
1 pt wonders...same as above, maybe need more Fade or BoS depending on equip.

enjoy

edit: I have matted all builds except last one.
 

nemar

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I think Beurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk !

shadow master is the best skill from d2 in my mind, not use it is beurk.

and 1 point in CoS/MB

or you want to make a challange build and in that case ok
 

Fafner

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nemar said:
I think Beurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk !

shadow master is the best skill from d2 in my mind, not use it is beurk.

and 1 point in CoS/MB

or you want to make a challange build and in that case ok
Nemar is right...but if you have good crowd control like MA/TS/Dtail, you can get by with a lvl 7-10 SM.

But high lvl SM = high lvl Valk and assassins really don't need that much help to begin with
 

Uzziah

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nemar said:
I think Beurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk !

shadow master is the best skill from d2 in my mind, not use it is beurk.

and 1 point in CoS/MB

or you want to make a challange build and in that case ok
Pardon my ignorance but what does "Beurk" mean?
 

Fafner

Diabloii.Net Member
Uzziah said:
Pardon my ignorance but what does "Beurk" mean?
It's french for Blech...

now I'm spamming...sorry.

Druidkid, go for the DC build, you can find it on the sticky in the assassin forum, you'll at least be original.

for easy go with trapper/hybrid.
 
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