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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Sir EvilFreeSmeg, Oct 5, 2006.

  1. Sir EvilFreeSmeg

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    Muslims are waging civil war against us, claims police union

    If you remember back to the riots all over France I said that this was the start of a civil war in France. Now the French police are saying it.
     
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    And once again Dross sticks his head in the sand.
     
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    Personally I think it's all overrated. What that small group wants is us to be afraid. I don't think I will be afraid. I'm not stupid, I know what is going on, esp in this country! - but I will not be afraid.
     
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    No. Once again I have to teach you some very basic facts about the French, their society and their history. And by "teach" I mean try to teach.
     
  6. Sir EvilFreeSmeg

    Sir EvilFreeSmeg Banned

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    You can try to teach me nonsense but I won't have any of that. The French are going to fall from inside and I'm the only one talking about it. I expect a full apology when it happens
     
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    From what I understand, most of the fuel behind that particular movement was boredom. At any rate, a socialist strike/protest rally is not exactly equitable to a growing population of people who the French chose to neither include nor eject from their society.

    As far as I can tell, the French government is trying as hard as it can to pretend that religion doesn't exist, and without their religion, Muslims are not a problem. Therefore there is no problem.

    I've been talking for a while about how faith is a mechanism by which humans are controlled by society. Their faith is stronger, and so they move with unity. As our faith dies, we become parylized, all of us moving in different directions and going nowhere. Meanwhile, their Imams say "attack" and they do it. They say "starve yourselves" and they will. Their Leaders tell them to strap bombs to themselves and become human weapons they do not hesitate.

    They are going to win if we cannot unite. Uniting under as Christians might be the way we have to do it.
     
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    This is only fair if you're offering the reverse if/when it doesn't, in fact, happen.
     
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    The Fench are by no means past any kind of point of no-return. Their present course could well lead to Smeg's theoretical, but on the off chance that the French people can somehow become unified in fighting off this other tribe they will manage to survive as a people.
     
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    Fair enough. I expect we'll all be posting on the Hellgate: London OTF when it does happen. Somehow I don't think this OTF will survive more than a couple of months after that HG:L is released.
     
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    I'll take that bet.

    Time frame?
     
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    When:
    Before Christmas 2009 it will be declared an official civil war between native Fench and radical Islamic immigrants - primarily from North Africa.

    If that's not an acceptable time frame I'll entertain a counter offer
     
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    Three years, eh? Alright then.

    But only an "official civil war".
     
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    To clarify that, do you want it a civil war that all politically active OTFers can agree on, one that the US state department calls a civil war or one that the UN declares a civil war?

    Since nothing but bragging rights and an appropriate amount of deserved gloating are on the line I don't care which one it is.
     
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    We'll go for one the OTF people can agree on.
     
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    So you're saying ECI loses automatically, because we never agree on anything. :embarassed:
     
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    "Us"? You're identifying with the French now, Smeg?

    This is all about French immigration law, unemployment and social ostracism (nobody alienates foreigners like the French). Particularly in recent times, things like the headscarf ban have been a match in a tinderbox. This is all down to local French issues - hell, a lot of those Muslims aren't even Middle Eastern, they're African.

    But it isn't surprising that some people choose to cloak the local socio-economic struggle in the guise of a religious struggle, after all this is what ALWAYS happens - everywhere and all through at least the last two thousand years of history. Religion is a rallying-cry, a flag, a standard, a team colour. It is not a cause of anything. Indeed, Al Qaeda et al are themselves fighting for socio-political reasons disguised by religious rhetoric. Does anyone really think the conflict in Northern Ireland is a religious one? No, and these others aren't either.

    So yes, a few people will raise the banner of "jihad" in this domestic French conflict, and sure, no doubt Al Qaeda and likeminded organisations will attempt to tap this resource of discontent as they tap others for recruits. But if you think that Smeg's rantings have anything to do with reality then well, you're a very special person.

    Yes, please do. Then you and the Muslims can go kill each other and leave people with sense alone.

    I want a piece of this action. What's the bet? Shall we say US$100?
     
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    You do know that it is the standard French policy to neglect the concept of religion in public spheres and has been for quite some time? Not saying it is right or anything, just that their treatment of those of Islamic faith is in not many ways different from their treatment of other religious groups.
     
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    Mmm, I seem to recall them fighting a whole civil war about that sort of thing in fact...
     
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    Well, that's the idea, and would - almost - make Smeg's rant plausible if he'd chosen to pick up his fallacious "history repeats itself" card again. But since obviously he had no clue, thanks for bringing it up.

    Although seriously, no, you can't prove a future Moslem intifada by what's happened that long ago among seculars and Christians of varying degrees. Sorry, Smeg. I was just kidding.
     

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