Money IS THE worlds greatest evil.
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That's probably the truest way it can be put. Money itself isn't inherently evil, of course; it's just an advanced barter system.Silvermyst said:
Even when we finally do away with actual paper and coin money (assuming we do), the basic concept will remain: I receive a predetermined amount of "money" or "credit" or "barter units" in exchange for working a predetermined amount of time. As long as I'm allowed to then trade those "units" for goods and services, then we'll have the same problems people have had since naked tribemen traded chickens for salt.
Money isn't evil, but people sure can be when they want something bad enough.
memememe173
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money isn't "evil" sloth and greed is
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That was kind of the basis of marxism...and evidently it doesn't workLondon said:
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I think the basis of marxism was pretty similar to the basis of the libertarian stance on taxation, people being enslaved by systems that one way or another don't pay them for what their work is actually worth. Only difference really is the libertarians went to the opposite extreme for their solution to that problem. And I wouldn't say necessarily that marxism doesn't work, just that it failed once when built on a weak economy, one in which capitalism also failed.
I don't think economists of either extreme or anywhere in between think that money is evil, it's just a fabricated extension of the barter system that makes trading easier, it's a tool. It just also happens to make manipulation easier, but that's not an intended effect, nor is it a matter of money having an inherent tendency to manipulate or that manipulation being up to chance. It's an effect that people have to actively and consciously work towards achieving.
The evil, therefore, is in the hearts of those who seek to use it to that effect, and not in any quality of the stack of paper itself.
I don't think economists of either extreme or anywhere in between think that money is evil, it's just a fabricated extension of the barter system that makes trading easier, it's a tool. It just also happens to make manipulation easier, but that's not an intended effect, nor is it a matter of money having an inherent tendency to manipulate or that manipulation being up to chance. It's an effect that people have to actively and consciously work towards achieving.
The evil, therefore, is in the hearts of those who seek to use it to that effect, and not in any quality of the stack of paper itself.
memememe173
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so what would you suggest we replace it with...a barter system, samee problems...everything is free we know that couldnt workLondon said:
marxism is more or less comunism
Marxism is communism in its idealistic state (before Stalin, Lenin and Mao corrupted it and changed it) its a great idea in theory but it would never work.
Why would it never work?
Because humans are inherantly corrupt and evil and thus the idea that everyone would do the same and not feel jealous or envious or slothful is just horse ****.
Money isn't evil, people are evil.
Why would it never work?
Because humans are inherantly corrupt and evil and thus the idea that everyone would do the same and not feel jealous or envious or slothful is just horse ****.
Money isn't evil, people are evil.