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  1. MortisConis

    MortisConis IncGamers Member

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    Mini Ubers

    My friend and I just killed Izzy pretty easily (very easily) - are the other mini-ubers about the same difficulty? I guess it depends on the builds (we used a fishymancer and an IK barb, but we have a few other characters each), but is one of them way out there in terms of how hard they are to kill?

    Also - are the organs tradable? I mean, does anyone trade one for another, or do they usually just open the 3 portals in the same game in order to ensure that they get one of each?
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Lilith is the hardest. Izzy can be tough for melee builds or those that rely on melee summons. My fishymancer can solo the mini ubers (42 skel mastery, 40 raise skeleton).

    I see games where people are trading organs from time to time, but mostly people open all three portals. When I first started doing ubers, I ended up with 3 eyes since I didn't know what I was doing. So I held onto them and eventually, when opening portals, I would get the matron's den and the furnace of pain first, so I wouldn't open the forgotten sands that time.
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Izzy is the easiest, I'd say. With duriel you'll have holy freeze gimping your damage, and Lilith does very large damage and poisons you basically forever.
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Unless you scout out act 1 for a poison resist shrine.



     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Succubi swarming around Lilith can cast curses for a reason ;]



     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Duriel is waaaay the easiest, since he's practically allways near the portal and there are few, if any, monsters around.

    Izual is just hard to get too.

    Lilith is the hardest because her poison drains your health in no time. What's even worse is that there are usually some 'sirens' around which curse you and cut your defenses big time.
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    I've tended to have the hardest time with Izzy, simply because he's a pain for me to get to with the characters I have. Once I'm there, and he's clear of other monsters, he's easy to take out.

    Lilith can be a pain, but once she's clear she's cake. Dur... well, as said, he's usually right there. Only once I've had to actually go off and find him, which I have to say was a huge pain.
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    The one useful thing I find with Izzy is his tendency to use his Tele rather aggressively. This means as soon as he spots you, you can usually backtrack and he'll follow you and end up clear of his O-Knights
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    The three "mini-ubers" really aren't that big a deal. I mean, get a reasonably equipped smiter and they're a breeze. I don't know what realm your play on, or if you're NL or L, but I play ESCNL and EHCL. If you ever need help with any of the mini-ubers or if you want a partner for uber tristram I'm willing to help you out free of charge. I love beating up on those ubers :afro:

    PS: Yeah, I just used the afro emote, what's up.
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Yeah, I guess like everyone, I find the minions the most annoying part of beating them. I play on ESCL, but thanks for the offer. I was just planning on trading organ sets and doing my usual MFing and forge rushing until I got some nice gear for a smiter or something and THEN the fun will begin :)

    And one more question - do the keys only drop from countess, summoner, and nihl if you're playing solo? My friend and I started running them as a team yesterday to quicken things up (tele down multiple paths at once to cut the time in half), and so far, nada. I mean, we only did summoner about 10 times, and nihl once or twice, but I just want to make sure so we aren't wasting our time.
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Yes the keys drop when you're solo.

    They've got a low drop rate though, like 1/15ish. They can also drop two keys at once.
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    I find the IM the knight things cast the hardest when getting to Iz, 1 hit and I am dead..

    And the Lillith is a pain to get to and seems to usually sporn Phy Immunes which is a problem for my smiter.
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    I know they can drop when you're by yourself. Do they also drop when you aren't?

    And bigmac - thanks for the heads up on physical immunes. We might have to come up with a different team for them.



     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Yes. Not only that but the keys have a higher chance to drop when you're playing with a group. The trouble bigmac mentioned was the iron maiden curse, not immunes.

    Aside from that, if lilith poison is hitting you hard you can always drink some antidote potions before the battle for a resist boost.


     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    So:
    • They aren't that hard
    • Organs can be traded, but usually aren't
    • Keys drop whether you're soloing or not
    • Minions are *****es
    • IM and physical immunes are also *****es

    Thanks for the replies



     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Whoops, misread ftl :lipsrsealed: that's what happens when you skim kids.
    I don't recall having any trouble with phys immunes on the way to lilith but I'll admit it has been a while since I walked her instead of teleporting with my sorc and opening a tp in a room near her.

    One more tip that may save you some frustration:
    - If you make a game and plan on opening all three portals, make sure you don't open them all at the same spot since the portals will open on top of each other and you'll be unable to enter the first ones. Just open one portal and then move your character to another spot before opening the next one.
     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    I'm not sure what you mean by "reasonably equipped," but the only thing a solo smiter can do to make Izzy easy is to use an enigma; nothing else really helps the problem that smiters have with the Furnace of Pain. That phrase you used is not helpful to someone who doesn't already know the answers to the questions that are being asked.

    MortisConis: Provided you and your friend can each do key finding solo, you're much better off finding your keys separately. For the countess, you can have 1 shot a 1:11 chance or 2 shots at a 1:14 chance. I don't think the slightly faster runs make up for that since you would have to nearly double your speed.


     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Or you could just run through and not kill anything on the way to izzy like I do with my zealer.


     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Being swarmed with a character that can't teleport ain't much fun.



     
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    Re: Mini Ubers

    Stick to the sides.
     

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