Meteorb vs Blizzballer vs FO/CL Sorc builds OK, I wandered over to the Single Player Forum and read around a bit. There sure are a lot of Blizzard fans over there (the spell, not necessarily the company.) I figure maybe its worth a 2nd look at some blizzard builds and how they compare to the standard meteorb. I think Meteorb, Blizzballer and are probably the most popular and common dual tree PvM, MF builds, right? I'm not gonna compare straight blizzard or any lightning only build as that's not really an apples to apples comparison. Just to be clear in case someone from the SPF forum ever comes over hear to read this - I'm going to look at 1.11b Ladder builds. My goal is to compare dual tree builds keeping them as similar as possible. I won't be using ES for any of them, and I'll be building for max vit (not max block). I'm going to start out equipping them all pretty much the same - Full Tal + Perfect Spirit + Magefists + 2x SOJ's. I may have to drop the SOJ's for some more FCR Rings to hit the next FCR breakpoint on the CL/FO build. I'll see how it looks when I get there. I'll probably also limit my CM to slvl 17, although I know a lot of cold fans go a bit higher. I'm not going to get into weapon switch or Mercenary setups as those are pretty similar and kinda irrelevant for this comparison. In the end I hope to see some sort of damage per second breakout. I'm gonna assume for the purposes of this thread that higher damage per second will equate to better MFing as all the builds have similar MF%. I should also say that this is kinda an ambitious project that may take me a while to finish. I don't expect to do this all in 1 post - sorry. Gear Helm: Tal Rasha's (socketed P Topaz) Weapon: Tal Rasha's Orb (2/2/2, socketed Ist) Shield: Spirit Monarch (35% Fast Cast) Armor: Tal Rasha's (socketed P Topaz) Belt: Tal Rasha's Gloves: Magefists (up'd 2x) Boots: War Trav's *this doesn't much matter just using something for comparison sake Amulet: Tal Rasha's Rings: 2x SOJ's Charms in Inventory: Anni Sorc Torch Gheeds (Remember to add charms to hit the 86% FHR breakpoint, but again this is kinda irrelevant for this comparison) *** doâ€™h now I canâ€™t get arreat summit to come open. Iâ€™ll have to leave off here for tonight. Next step is to figure out all the + skill numbers so I know how many points to put into CM. Then I can write out the skill setups for each char. After that Iâ€™ll plug the numbers into a skill calculator and start looking at damage. Should be interesting.