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meph kill comparision

Discussion in 'Sorceress' started by Superhal, Mar 27, 2004.

  1. Superhal

    Superhal IncGamers Member

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    meph kill comparision

    1. how many casts of your main spell, without static, does it take to kill meph at players 1 in hell? not including merc.

    2. report main offensive skills, minus eq/charms.

    3. relevant charm/eq information, eg. +skills, -enemy resists, +skill damage.

    i'll go first:

    1. not in hell yet (just an example)

    2. 20 blizz
    20 cm
    20 synergies

    3. +4 skills

    i'll be there soon, so i'll update then.
     
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    I dont know how you guys can kill meph in 2 blizzards. I take at least 4. How much damage do you guys do and what level are your skills?
     
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    2 blizzard = 10 Cold Charms, Anni, Perf Nightwings, Perf Fathom, Perf Cold Facets in everything, stuff like that. Most people cannot get that.

    1. 3-5 Blizzards, depending on if he moves right under the shard or not.

    2. 20 Blizz
    xx CM (-95 Cold w/ +6 skills, more with the "Kill Setup"
    20 IceBlast, Glacial Spike

    3. I got +9 skills for killing mephisto, and conveniently 400 mf as well, cuz well, Occy is just plain sexy ^^.

    I end up dealing about 3.3k with Occy. Not bad, I guess, cuz I'm not uberich =).
     
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    So a Blizz sorc is definately the best Meph raper?

    I have a Meteorb Sorc where I find Meteor to be completely useless and end up only using Orb and Fireball, mostly Orb because my mana can't handle fireballs. I have a low level Blizzard sorc I'm working on too, she's only 50-ish right now and questing through act 2 Nightmare, Blizz is a pain to control in comparison to Orb...
     
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    that's what this thread is trying to find out.

    trying to find out. initially when .10 came out, the math said blizz sorc, but i want to hear from other builds too.

    i've also heard reports of people that can kill meph in 2 orbs, but i'd like to hear from them directly.
     
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    blizzard does good dmg but i prefer my meteorb sorc..... i can kill him in under 30 secs so i dont worry... and atleast i can go anywhere easily while with blizzard u have to make sure they run into it.... if ur only doing it for boss killing blizzard sounds good if u can kill him in 3-5 blizzards...
     
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    fully synergized? how much +skills? how many casts? the 30 secs is for killing him only or for finding the stairs too?
     
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    If Meteor don´t works for you it must depend on your playing technique. You probably try to avoid body contact with him, you move and you get him to move - I gues so anyway.
    I teleport to him and let him attack. First I cast some SF and than: Meteor, 2*FB, Meteor... All is over in ~5 sek. I never counted how many times I needed to click :lol:
    2.Offensive skills: Meteor, FB
    3.Tal set, 2 F skillers, Anni = +8 to skills, -15% enemy´s fr
     
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    Meteor/fire ball is quick, but only if you have lots of -resist items. Same goes for charged bolt, plus griffon's eye is a nice item suiting the build very well. For starting not superb equipment mephisto goes down quickly through either orb or blizzard, blizzard being the fastest if you spam ice blast in the casting delay. I calculated a while ago that you can kill him in a mere 3 seconds with blizzard/ice blast (!) (lvl 50 skills etc though... you know the stuff)
     
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    ok.. 3 points for tele ..


    20 - blizzard
    20 - glacial spike
    20 - ice blast

    now.. max cold mastery or ice bolt first ?



    this is for a pure meph running sorc.
     
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    You should max CM after the first synergy. First 6 blizz, then 1 CM at lvl 30, then 14 more blizz, then 20 ice blast, then 20 cm and finally 20 ice bolt and glacial spike (in that order, ice bolt also adds damage to ice blast while glacial doesn't, well it's your preference really what you want.)
     
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    1. Not exactly what you asked here, but here's the quickest way I found.

    Teleport to top of bridge at moat closest to Meph to draw him towards the sorc. When he's at the desired spot, tp right on top of him with merc and SF him till half. Walk to desired FO range and cast away, quickest 4 orbs mostly 6-8 average. About 15 secs of work from hitting the entrance, not from casting.

    2. Synergized FO and Meteor/FM with invested points as follows:

    8 Ice Bolt
    20 FO
    15 CM

    20 Meteor
    20 FM

    3. +6 skills from Vipermagi, Visceraunt, Tarnhelm, +2 cold skill ammy, 2 fire skill charms, Annihilus. Gull dagger on switch, Chance guards, mf rare boots and some mf charms. 282 mf and a lot of room to improve on that, mainly due to all the other builds (4) I'm playing at the same time.

    I find it a good set up though it's not near godly, yet I can mf anywhere and everywhere quickly , in the whole game. :thumbsup:
     
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    He takes me 15-17 fireballs.

    Maxed, plus synergies. +23 to fire tree. No -resistance stuff.

    MF stuff on weapon switch so I can get about 270 mf for the final hits.

    750 life, 75% blocking and resistances; she rarely goes below 50% HP in a run.

    Strategy is very simple - teleport near to him and start casting fireballs. Closer is better since he has less chance to dodge. His attacks don't do enough damage to hurt me much before he dies himself.
     
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    tal rasha sorc, using 1soj and uniq shield +1 sorc anni
    Doint 49XX dmg
    Takes about 6 complete blizzards, hehe meph dropped uniq vambraces
    Sorc hax maxed blizz with synergies max. 1 on CM

    Orb/Hydra Sorc, hoto, shako, +1 amulet, anni, viperskin, soj, bo (=+1), arachnid
    Doing 58X dmg
    Takes about 8 orbs (so no hydras used), meph dropped me cats eye ;)
    Sorc has max orb, almost max synergie and about -100 res/-105 or -110 with CM (incl +skills)

    Using static first.
    Bliz sorc 3 blizz
    Orb sorc 3 orbs <--- depends on distance
     
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    20 blizzard
    20 CM
    20 synergy
    +4 all skills
    1800 damage

    8-10 casts of blizzard, no static.

    my sorc is build to last, no to do huge damage. Therefore she is only good for meph killing and teleporting anywhere in the game safely .Not so good for killing other things though. She has:

    1100 life
    700 mana
    75 block
    lvl 5 ES with max TK
    50 damage reduction
    ~330 MF with gull / rhyme swich.

    For non mephi runs, belt and rings are replaced giving her:
    60 less MF
    10 less damage reduct
    40 less life
    absorb all 3 elements.
     
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    1. 9 blizzards

    2. 20 blizz
    20 cm
    20 glacial spike
    4 ice blast
    8 ice bolt

    3. +3 to all skills, -130% resist, no offensive charms.

    on this trial, my blizz is listed at 1854-1994. now i will level a bit till 83-85 ish.
     
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    I average about 2-4 Blizzards...depending on how much moving around Meph does. I also don't dump all my Blizzards on the same spot...rather, I lay them in front of Meph at the foot of the stairs at the moat, and just slightly behind him at the top of the stairs. This way the blizzards are overlapped for a little bit, and no matter how meph moves, he's likely to take more than a few hits.

    I also don't wait around for my Blizzards to take him down. I cast a Blizzard, then spam a few Ice Bolts, drop another Blizzard, spam some more Ice Bolts...usually he's pretty much gone by then...if not...rinse and repeat.

    No +skill charms, no facets...standard tal's armor,belt,ammy +shako setup.

    -X
     
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    got it down to 7 with additional +7 to ice bolt.

    i'm doing it with the moat trick so i can count, maybe if i did it your way i could get lower.
     
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    what stat point did you put in to end up with 1100 life and 700 mana and 75 block ? what lvl is your character?
     
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    she is lvl 86.

    i have upraged my mosers and put eld in it for 72 block.
    I use a safety craft ammy to add 10 block.

    my dex is around 160-170.
    str 95 i think.
    mana base.
    vita all else.

    wizzy gives my 192 mana
    shako gives me mana and life.
    verdungos gives 38 vita.

    charms give me about 120 life and 80 mana:
    4 x 20 life sc
    1x 39 life+13 res all gc
    1x ~40 mana, 6 str
    1x ~40 mana, 6 dex
    1x gheeds.

    Of course, when i swich to gull / rhyme, i lose a lot of my mana from wizzy.
     

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